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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding	UTF-8 encoded Lisp files
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 13:13:01 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83bncof9w2.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ+TeoeCK7x2EyPVUdMvVZROcpsGx5Wv-2d-rz9EjnDckk6jDw@mail.gmail.com>

> From: Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 14:50:48 +0530
> 
> Ive been trying to understand this stuff and was looking at eg.
> lisp/language/indian.el
> 
> In there I find that:
> (defconst bengali-composable-pattern
>   (let ((table
>      '(("a" . "\u0981")        ; SIGN CANDRABINDU
>        ("A" . "[\u0982-\u0983]")    ; SIGN ANUSVARA .. VISARGA
>        ("V" . "[\u0985-\u0994\u09E0-\u09E1]") ; independent vowel
>        ("C" . "[\u0995-\u09B9\u09DC-\u09DF\u09F1]") ; consonant
>        ("B" . "[\u09AC\u09AF-\u09B0\u09F0]")        ; BA, YA, RA
>        ("R" . "[\u09B0\u09F0]")        ; RA
>        ("n" . "\u09BC")        ; NUKTA
>        ("v" . "[\u09BE-\u09CC\u09D7\u09E2-\u09E3]") ; vowel sign
>        ("H" . "\u09CD")        ; HALANT
>        ("T" . "\u09CE")        ; KHANDA TA
>        ("N" . "\u200C")        ; ZWNJ
>        ("J" . "\u200D")        ; ZWJ
>        ("X" . "[\u0980-\u09FF]"))))    ; all coverage
> etc etc

This is unrelated: it specifies which character sequences should be
composed and displayed as a single grapheme cluster.

> So then I checked why the file was showing as UTF-8 encoded.
> 
> Found this one non-ASCII line:
> 
> (set-language-info-alist
>  "Kannada" '((charset unicode)
>          (coding-system mule-utf-8)
>          (coding-priority mule-utf-8)
>          (input-method . "kannada-itrans")
>          (sample-text . "Kannada (ಕನ್ನಡ)    ನಮಸ್ಕಾರ")
>          (documentation . "\
> Kannada language and script is supported in this language
> environment."))
>  '("Indian"))
> 
> It strikes me that this sample text should be there for the other
> languages also but it does not seem to be there

You cannot base encoding decisions on the language or script alone,
unless that language exists in a single locale.  Many languages and
scripts serve several different locales with several different default
encodings.

> Just for context if I can understand whats going on, I would like to
> help improve this/these docs:
> 
> 
> (info "(elisp)input methods")
> 
>   | How to define input methods is not yet documented in this manual,
> but here we
>   | describe how to use them.

Again unrelated.  Input methods are about typing characters not
directly supported by the user's keyboard.




  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-27 10:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20150921165211.20434.28114@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <E1Ze4K3-0005KC-5U@vcs.savannah.gnu.org>
2015-09-21 19:57   ` [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files Stefan Monnier
2015-09-21 20:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-24 16:44       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-24 21:29         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-25  7:55           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-25 12:21             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-25 13:37               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-25 22:32               ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-26  6:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-26  6:32                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-26 14:31                   ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-26 15:15                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-26 16:01                       ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-26 16:09                         ` David Kastrup
2015-09-26 17:26                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-26 18:53                           ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-26 19:35                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-26 20:26                               ` Chad Brown
2015-09-26 21:50                                 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27  4:44                                   ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  5:29                                     ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27  7:38                                       ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  7:46                                         ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27  7:52                                           ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  9:47                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2015-09-27  9:54                                         ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27 10:03                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2015-09-27 10:12                                             ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27 11:10                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2015-09-27 22:48                                       ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-28  2:41                                         ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-28  6:53                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-28 15:08                                             ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-28 15:58                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27  7:39                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27  7:52                                       ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  8:00                                         ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27  8:03                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27  8:29                                           ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  8:37                                             ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27  8:40                                               ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  8:50                                                 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27 10:14                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27  8:57                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27  7:34                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27 16:03                                   ` Chad Brown
2015-09-27 18:41                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27 19:52                                       ` Chad Brown
2015-09-27 20:52                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-26 20:32                               ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  7:27                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27  7:42                                   ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27  9:20                                     ` Rustom Mody
2015-09-27 10:13                                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2015-09-27 20:21                                         ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27 21:04                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27  8:22                                   ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  8:55                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27  9:56                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2015-09-27 10:04                                       ` David Kastrup
2015-09-27 10:16                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27 10:36                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27 10:59                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-27 20:05                                               ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-26 17:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-26 18:51                           ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  0:12                         ` stephen
2015-09-27  4:44                           ` Paul Eggert
2015-09-27  6:20                             ` stephen
2015-09-27  8:34                               ` Paul Eggert

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