From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#22613: 25.1.50; dired-aux missing require 'cl-lib Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 18:44:52 +0200 Message-ID: <83bn7k5zln.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83mvr4663j.fsf@gnu.org> <87twlcvfxu.fsf@web.de> <83lh6o640c.fsf@gnu.org> <871t8ginzx.fsf@web.de> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455387747 3703 80.91.229.3 (13 Feb 2016 18:22:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 18:22:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: f92capac@gmail.com, 22613@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 13 19:22:16 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aUepj-0004Wu-N6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 19:22:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43979 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUepf-0004rs-Ux for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:22:11 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36529) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUepb-0004o4-Me for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:22:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUepW-0004mJ-FM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:22:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:47521) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUepW-0004m7-CS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:22:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aUepW-0000kV-AE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:22:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 18:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 22613 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 22613-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B22613.14553877062842 (code B ref 22613); Sat, 13 Feb 2016 18:22:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 22613) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2016 18:21:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38295 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aUepF-0000jl-S0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:21:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45397) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aUepE-0000ja-9r for 22613@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:21:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUdJU-00045a-Ej for 22613@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 11:44:56 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57234) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUdJU-00045V-6h; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 11:44:52 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1163 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aUdJT-0008Tx-9k; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 11:44:51 -0500 In-reply-to: <871t8ginzx.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:17:06 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:112983 Archived-At: > From: Michael Heerdegen > Cc: f92capac@gmail.com, 22613@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:17:06 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > What is confusing is that "emacs -Q" knows cl-mapcan is autoloaded, > > even though its autoload form was not loaded, evidently. Where does > > it get this information, and why can't it get the autoload form from > > the same place? > > Maybe this is package.el related - cl-lib is a built-in package. I had > hoped to find some information in (info "(elisp) Startup Summary"). Sorry, I'm confused: what does package.el have to do with this issue, and what do you mean by "a built-in package" in this context?