From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Recent commit modifying mark-whole-buffer (master/aeb613ea95b7970e66d663ec5cba54e9ec0528fa) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 20:06:32 +0300 Message-ID: <83bn4swdif.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87lh3x4dkb.fsf@gnus.org> <83wpngx69z.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuu4bo3y.fsf@gnus.org> <83inz0wprx.fsf@gnu.org> <87shy4a8d4.fsf@gnus.org> <83fuu4wnmm.fsf@gnu.org> <87y47w5w0p.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1461949682 9660 80.91.229.3 (29 Apr 2016 17:08:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stephan.Mueller@microsoft.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 29 19:07:51 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1awBtO-0002YV-OJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 19:07:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55557 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awBtK-00061j-Rz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:07:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45451) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awBt0-0005pR-NM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:07:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awBsp-0006d1-7V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:07:21 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59642) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1awBsY-0006Y4-C0; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:06:58 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4741 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1awBsR-00042G-Av; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 13:06:52 -0400 In-reply-to: <87y47w5w0p.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:28:54 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:203419 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stephan.Mueller@microsoft.com > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:28:54 +0200 > > 1) It should be as normal a buffer as possible, and we should do minimal > things to distinguish between the prompt and the text (your stance). > > 2) We should try to make the prompt go away from (some) common commands > where that makes sense (which is what Emacs does now with C-a and the > mark-whole-buffer change). > > 3) The prompt should be a totally separate thing, not affected by any > commands whatsoever (the suggestion made yesterday). > > 2), of course, means endless haggling of "what makes sense". I think > mark-whole-buffer makes sense, but perhaps not? My stance is actually 2). IOW, I'm saying that what we do now is okay, and shouldn't be "improved".