From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Enable customisation for electric-quote-mode chars Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 19:23:31 +0300 Message-ID: <83bn0bbl30.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87d1ksdtzg.fsf@xi.bootis> <83fupnbok6.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1472487838 760 195.159.176.226 (29 Aug 2016 16:23:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 16:23:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: self@gkayaalp.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 29 18:23:48 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bePLf-0007co-AG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 18:23:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44741 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bePLc-00016D-UH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 12:23:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57839) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bePLW-00015v-QZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 12:23:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bePLR-0006kT-QZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 12:23:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37524) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bePLR-0006kA-NR; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 12:23:33 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1195 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bePLQ-0003HG-N4; Mon, 29 Aug 2016 12:23:33 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Yuri Khan on Mon, 29 Aug 2016 21:54:27 +0600) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:206885 Archived-At: > From: Yuri Khan > Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 21:54:27 +0600 > Cc: Göktuğ Kayaalp , > Paul Eggert , Emacs developers > > > Default (‘..’ “..”) > > Arabic (".." ”..“) > > German (‚..‛ „..“) > > French (‹..› «..») > > Cyrillic (‚..‘ «..») > > > > etc. WDYT? (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark for > > some more.) > > Single quotes are exceedingly rare as quotation marks in Russian, and > likely Ukrainian and Belorussian. (I cannot speak for other Cyrillic > languages.) German-style „…“ or English-style “…” curved double quotes > are used as second level quotations. > > On the other hand, I cannot see anyone expecting to get a double quote > by typing a character looking like a single quote. > > On the third hand, the default Russian keyboard layout does not > contain any single-quote-like characters at all. (Unless you count the > comma.) A typographic assistance feature that requires two layout > switches per occurrence is not likely to see any significant use. I don't insist on the details, they were just intended to serve as examples of what I meant, and need to be figured out before we finalize the change.