From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-26 0feb673: Display raw bytes as belonging to 'eight-bit' charset Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2018 20:37:00 +0300 Message-ID: <83bmartg77.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20180727064907.6305.13029@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20180727064909.85288203C0@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87bmas3juo.fsf@gmail.com> <877elg4tbx.fsf@igel.home> <2499AA9B-E194-4EE0-BF2B-97F082B999EB@gnu.org> <83zhycqtk7.fsf@gnu.org> <83effntmr3.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1532799349 4712 195.159.176.226 (28 Jul 2018 17:35:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2018 17:35:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kenichi Handa , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 28 19:35:45 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fjT85-000189-0V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2018 19:35:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46024 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fjTAB-0008Qj-MH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2018 13:37:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47426) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fjT9N-0008Qe-96 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2018 13:37:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fjT9M-00032s-DF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2018 13:37:05 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56315) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fjT9H-00031n-EF; Sat, 28 Jul 2018 13:36:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3764 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fjT9G-0008JG-PM; Sat, 28 Jul 2018 13:36:59 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sat, 28 Jul 2018 12:49:10 -0400) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:227926 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2018 12:49:10 -0400 > > >> I know and understand what this charset is for. Yet I don't see why > >> eight-bit-control chars should be reported as belonging to this charset > >> (any more than they should be reported to belong to any of the other > >> charsets to which they may also belong, such as all the iso8859 > >> charsets). > > > > Because ISO-8859 charsets don't include bytes between 128 and 159 > > (inclusive), I guess. > > According to the info I found, tis620 doesn't include those codes either > (and doesn't include 160 either, contrary to iso8859-11 which is > otherwise identical). > > > We actually don't want to expose eight-bit-control to users at all, we > > want there to be a single charset called 'eight-bit' covering all the > > raw bytes. > > Fair enough, then the chars in eight-bit-control should have `eight-bit` > as their canonical charset (no matter the user's language environment). OK, I've removed tis620-2533 on master, let's see if this breaks anything.