From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: PL support Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 20:04:22 +0300 Message-ID: <83blmt84q1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <83ftc9dm07.fsf@gnu.org> <0d678371-2df7-519e-5ec0-7e26bfa6ea34@gmail.com> <11dff979-002e-e03e-2e3e-cdb09fcc409e@yandex.ru> <8017be3d-a4ed-61eb-9bdb-9a95c77a0698@gmail.com> <3adf65ae-fd0d-4fee-adfd-e11d39a148fc@yandex.ru> <01e211df-acfb-fb8a-eedc-7cb439b64cd8@yandex.ru> <57491476-b7d1-ed1e-9eaf-bc45db607ae8@yandex.ru> <835zd2bf2h.fsf@gnu.org> <1c43f78b-2bc5-8c81-4a57-ba63bb721c85@yandex.ru> <83wo5i9z21.fsf@gnu.org> <83ftc69ute.fsf@gnu.org> <83a72e9t6f.fsf@gnu.org> <833685anvq.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="72360"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: ams@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, cpitclaudel@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 12 19:08:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jYYOC-000Iiq-1D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 19:08:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48352 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYYOB-0001QD-3E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 13:08:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54322) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYYKq-00041S-M1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 13:04:52 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:45322) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jYYKp-0005tc-Ts; Tue, 12 May 2020 13:04:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3631 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jYYKg-0008AR-Uk; Tue, 12 May 2020 13:04:43 -0400 In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Tue, 12 May 2020 16:55:17 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:249995 Archived-At: > Cc: ams@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, cpitclaudel@gmail.com, > monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 16:55:17 +0300 > > >> So what does the lead maintainer being strapped for time have to do with > >> it? Other people routinely work on GNU Emacs and various related projects. > > They do, and everyone's contributions are greatly appreciated. But > > our standards and conventions, and our procedures are common and > > should be agreed upon, regardless of who personally does what. > > Otherwise we will cease to be a coherent project with common goals and > > practices. > > Sorry, I'm not sure what this is going to mean in practice. And you > going to dismiss an existing sub-project of Emacs (GNU ELPA) because you > don't have enough time AND because people haven't been formatting their > commit messages correctly? Sorry, I cannot parse this. I didn't mention dismissing anything, and I don't see how my lack of time and formatting of commit messages have any relation to what I wrote (or to the general issue at hand, really).