From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: etc/HELLO: On Chinese and Cantonese Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:30:46 +0300 Message-ID: <83blgtji1l.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87mu0e3giu.fsf@posteo.net> <83wnzil7ki.fsf@gnu.org> <831rhpl9bm.fsf@gnu.org> <878sbxdwfj.fsf@tcd.ie> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38463"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: matthewzmd@posteo.net, rms@gnu.org, ksqsf@mail.ustc.edu.cn, eric@ericabrahamsen.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: "Basil L. Contovounesios" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 23 13:35:42 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kVvMD-0009qj-Q8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 13:35:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54708 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVvMC-0005Yu-O4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 07:35:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53874) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVvHs-00022S-1c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 07:31:12 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44212) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVvHq-0001MC-Uv; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 07:31:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=4933 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kVvHi-0003DS-Cv; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 07:31:03 -0400 In-Reply-To: <878sbxdwfj.fsf@tcd.ie> (contovob@tcd.ie) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258347 Archived-At: > From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" > Cc: eric@ericabrahamsen.net, rms@gnu.org, matthewzmd@posteo.net, > ksqsf@mail.ustc.edu.cn, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 12:16:32 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > But I'd like to reiterate what I said earlier: I would only remove my > > objections for changing this part of HELLO if I hear from a > > representative enough group of native Chinese speakers from both sides > > of the divide that some change will be acceptable to them, and cause > > no controversies on either side. With all due respect, people who > > voiced their opinions in this matter till now cannot be considered > > such a group. In particular, none of them stated his/her country of > > origin and current place of living, nor the cultural group to which he > > or she belongs, which makes judging the opinions harder. > > FWIW, I think Eric is also a literary translator of Chinese. Thanks, but the aspects that bother me are not of the technical nature.