From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 15:39:54 +0300 Message-ID: <83bladw0dh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <009901c9421f$5bd0a6b0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <00ad01c942a0$1f49ca60$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <87eef9qg81.fsf@gnus.org> <1869622e162377be79e9@heytings.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20459"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 1305@debbugs.gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se, jasonspiro4@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 17 14:41:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lXkG4-0005BW-HN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 14:41:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57748 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lXkG3-0004mD-KW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 08:41:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49850) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lXkFy-0004m7-6u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 08:41:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:59134) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lXkFx-0005OV-UK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 08:41:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lXkFx-00074t-Sc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 08:41:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 12:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 1305 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 1305-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B1305.161866321227123 (code B ref 1305); Sat, 17 Apr 2021 12:41:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1305) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Apr 2021 12:40:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42447 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lXkFA-00073N-6v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 08:40:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37116) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lXkF8-00072z-9A for 1305@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 08:40:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:32791) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lXkF0-0004s3-Vd; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 08:40:04 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.95.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.95]:1595 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lXkEz-0001GC-D9; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 08:40:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1869622e162377be79e9@heytings.org> (message from Gregory Heytings on Sat, 17 Apr 2021 12:31:27 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:204196 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 12:31:27 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings > Cc: jasonspiro4@gmail.com, 1305@debbugs.gnu.org, > Stefan Kangas , Stefan Monnier > > IMO, the default behavior on GNU/Linux (inverting video on the first and > last line of the frame) is horrible (but perhaps less so than an actual > bell), and the default behavior on macOS is too intrusive (but again > perhaps less so than an actual bell). On MS-Windows, we use a system API that flashes the caption bar of the selected-frame's window.