From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Awful completion buffer behaviour Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 16:00:09 +0200 Message-ID: <83bl18yc2e.fsf@gnu.org> References: <878rwdtjum.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <878rwdtjum.fsf@yahoo.com> <83o858yf4w.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6gspzmn.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32401"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 22 15:10:19 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n02Jv-0008Gg-3R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 15:10:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56554 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n02Jt-0008BX-K1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 09:10:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43358) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n02AW-000439-5p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 09:00:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [2001:470:142:3::e] (port=40020 helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n02AK-0002mQ-LB; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 09:00:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=GeSilcjOupDuyfOSykv4uJSM7/5bffaAWBE0yTY8k4Y=; b=jNox4OJgVF/R zPvBLrnpSGU9+BriuIKynSvH0Y9Eswix0XoWqbehemC5qKAl4MTax5RMBDr+Bqv82UUXzG1j2wazu VKKXz7smDTCrIiIykt30qkhL4h+5c1Q3D1VoBcT8Obt4/OFOQPQBUGTg1QegbAC6AqfL+dsblAey5 Bbg5C/SkIxee0/Q6b14aBJNm7atQNCHEfcLHxRfp+pqsnUHYCDbixCS+4eOXQ+KSAFhZb5B9w7iDu PtERdOdC2OWp9a2sMKYujqhPpp8Si/uO3A0YztAkXnPxUmTbEOM+CEpcqSvcFiWLM7KX26ik/q5UR vq2ijx+//zwT//TnDw04Ow==; Original-Received: from [87.69.77.57] (port=1970 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n02A2-0007W8-9r; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 09:00:20 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87a6gspzmn.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Wed, 22 Dec 2021 20:56:00 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282745 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 20:56:00 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > I agree that this new behavior is an unpleasant surprise for me. > > > > I'm not sure I understand the purpose of the month-long experiment > > with turning this on by default. Is it to decide whether it will stay > > on in Emacs 29? If so, the experiment can be terminated now: we will > > not make this the default, certainly not in Emacs 29, and maybe not > > even in Emacs 30. It is too radical departure of age-old Emacs > > behavior in the default completion commands. > > Thanks, will you mind if I install a change that documents the option > in the NEWS entry and changes its default value to nil now? I'd like to hear from Juri and Philip first.