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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: damien@cassou.me, 54156@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#54156: 28.0.91; set-face-attribute with a nil FRAME doesn't change the default
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 15:03:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83bkyvqet5.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y21zw2ll.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Fri,  25 Feb 2022 13:30:14 +0100)

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Cc: damien@cassou.me,  54156@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 13:30:14 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > Does this issue happen only with the nil values of :background?  If
> > so, may I ask what do you and Damien think should be the effect of
> > setting the background color of a face to nil?
> 
> That there is no background colour on the face -- that's the effect of
> doing that (but only on existing frames).

But that's not what nil does in this case.  It means the same as
'unspecified': that you have nothing to say about that particular
attribute.  So Emacs does nothing.

Think about it: any face attribute not explicitly mentioned in a
defface is set to 'unspecified' by the low-level code.  This is basic
in how faces are handled in Emacs; we cannot easily change that
without breaking gobs of code.

Moreover, attributes of the faces for future frames, the ones you get
by calling face-attribute with FRAME = t, are documented to be
'unspecified' by default.

The correct way to do what Damien wants (AFAIU) is this:

  (set-face-attribute 'region nil :background 'unspecified)
  (set-face-attribute 'region t :background 'unspecified)

That is, one must explicitly call set-face-attribute with FRAME = t
(as well as nil), and pass 'unspecified' (NOT nil!) as the value.
Maybe we should document that, although it is a obscure and unusual
thing to do.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-25 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-25 10:21 bug#54156: 28.0.91; set-face-attribute with a nil FRAME doesn't change the default Damien Cassou
2022-02-25 12:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-25 12:26   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-25 12:30     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-25 13:03       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-02-25 13:12         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-25 13:24           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-25 15:42             ` bug#54156: [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-02-26 15:04             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-26 15:24               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-26 16:17                 ` bug#54156: [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-02-26 16:35                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-26 17:23                     ` Drew Adams
2022-02-26 17:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-26 22:47                         ` Drew Adams
2022-02-27  7:04                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-27 15:49                             ` Drew Adams
2022-02-27 13:02                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-27 16:13                   ` bug#54156: [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-02-25 12:16 ` Eli Zaretskii

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