From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com>
Cc: 58909@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#58909: 29.0.50; [WIP PATCH] Deleting the last frame of an emacsclient doesn't ask to save
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 20:25:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83bkpretpn.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a18c7b22-b579-a5dd-44fa-af6a64ed34be@gmail.com> (message from Jim Porter on Mon, 31 Oct 2022 10:36:57 -0700)
> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 10:36:57 -0700
> Cc: 58909@debbugs.gnu.org
> From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com>
>
> On 10/31/2022 5:44 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > I'm uneasy with this incompatible behavior change. I can think of
> > some legitimate use cases where "C-x 5 0" should not prompt, e.g., if
> > the user intends to keep editing the file, and no application is
> > waiting for the client to finish. Why break such flows?
>
> Maybe we should add an option like
> 'server-save-before-deleting-last-frame', in case users prefer the old
> behavior?
I tend to think we shouldn't change the behavior here, not at all.
Not even as an option. I see no problem here that we must solve.
> Alternately, we could add a keybinding for 'server-edit-abort'.
Users who need this can easily make a binding for them. There's no
need to have such a binding by default.
> Still another possibility would be to prompt only when closing a frame
> by clicking the "X" on the frame's title bar. When using a
> non-client/server Emacs, doing this prompts the user to save when
> closing the last frame. ('C-x 5 0' in this case would just error out,
> since it refuses to delete the last frame.) That's because clicking the
> X calls 'handle-delete-frame' which calls 'save-buffers-kill-emacs' in
> that case. Then clicking the "X" would behave similarly when deleting
> the last frame of a client and deleting the last frame overall.
But "last frame of a client" ≠ "the last frame". So I see no reason
for a similar behavior.
> > Deleting a frame does no harm as long as Emacs is still up and running
> > after that, so IMO forcing the user to answer such a prompt could be
> > an annoyance.
>
> I think it does about the same amount of harm as pressing 'C-x C-c' in
> an emacs client.
How can you say that? "C-x C-c" kills the entire terminal, whereas
"C-x 5 0" kills just one frame!
> Since my patch only affects the case when there's a single frame for
> the client, both 'C-x C-c' and 'C-x 5 0' would do the same thing
> (aside from prompting): they close the current frame and terminate
> the client connection.
I disagree, sorry. We are talking about maybe a minor inconvenience
in a pretty special use case. It is unjustified to change long-time
behavior for such weak reasons.
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Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-10-30 22:29 bug#58909: 29.0.50; [WIP PATCH] Deleting the last frame of an emacsclient doesn't ask to save Jim Porter
2022-10-31 12:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 17:36 ` Jim Porter
2022-10-31 18:25 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-10-31 19:38 ` Jim Porter
2022-10-31 19:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 20:28 ` Jim Porter
2022-11-01 6:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 19:28 ` Jim Porter
2022-10-31 19:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 20:01 ` Jim Porter
2022-10-31 20:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-31 21:06 ` Jim Porter
2022-11-01 6:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 16:11 ` Jim Porter
2022-11-01 22:39 ` Jim Porter
2022-11-02 12:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 16:36 ` Jim Porter
2022-11-02 17:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 18:17 ` Jim Porter
2022-11-02 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 19:16 ` Jim Porter
2022-11-02 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 19:57 ` Jim Porter
2022-11-02 20:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 22:09 ` bug#58909: 29.0.50; [PATCH] " Jim Porter
2022-11-03 6:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-06 20:23 ` Jim Porter
2022-11-08 14:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-08 15:08 ` Robert Pluim
2022-11-08 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-08 15:29 ` Robert Pluim
2022-11-08 16:52 ` Jim Porter
2022-11-09 10:06 ` Robert Pluim
2022-11-17 5:17 ` Jim Porter
2023-09-07 21:03 ` bug#58909: 29.0.50; [WIP PATCH] " Stefan Kangas
2023-09-08 1:21 ` Jim Porter
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