* bug#65771: 29.1; yank-pop behaviour description in info
@ 2023-09-06 3:36 Daniel Vianna
2023-09-06 12:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Vianna @ 2023-09-06 3:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 65771
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Started emacs with `emacs -Q`
C-h i, then browsed to Emacs Intro Tutorial, 10.3 Exercises with Yank and
nthcdr
I believe the behaviour of `yank-pop` (M-y) changed from the behaviour
described
in the tutorial. It gives options for autocompletion rather than cycling
the values within
the `kill-ring` variable. It would be desirable to rewrite that exercise to
reflect the actual
behaviour of the emacs interface.
Of further interest is that `kill-ring` now stores more than just the
strings, but also
many font properties. I believe this should be noted in the tutorial, so it
doesn't confuse
readers.
Cheers, Daniel.
In GNU Emacs 29.1 (build 2, x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
3.24.38, cairo version 1.17.8) of 2023-07-28 built on jabuticaba
Repository revision: c2d95dd00e6cb0abaf4e7550f38c8c2c9ca22f2d
Repository branch: emacs-29
System Description: Fedora Linux 38 (Workstation Edition)
Configured using:
'configure --prefix=/home/dmvianna/.local --without-pop
--with-mailutils --with-pgtk --without-x --with-xwidgets --with-cairo
--without-compress-install --with-native-compilation --with-json
--with-dbus --with-gif --with-jpeg --with-png --with-rsvg --with-tiff
--with-webp --with-gpm --with-modules --with-harfbuzz
build_alias=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu host_alias=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu'
Configured features:
ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG
JSON LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY
INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XIM XWIDGETS GTK3 ZLIB
Important settings:
value of $LANG: en_AU.UTF-8
value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus
locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
Major mode: Lisp Interaction
Minor modes in effect:
tooltip-mode: t
global-eldoc-mode: t
eldoc-mode: t
show-paren-mode: t
electric-indent-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
tool-bar-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
indent-tabs-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
Load-path shadows:
None found.
Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr emacsbug message mailcap yank-media puny dired
dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg rfc6068
epg-config gnus-util text-property-search mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode
mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047
rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils time-date pp cl-print
byte-opt completion thingatpt help-fns radix-tree cl-loaddefs comp
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bytecomp byte-compile cl-lib rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren
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term/pgtk-win pgtk-win term/common-win pgtk-dnd tool-bar dnd fontset
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composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook
jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs
theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties
overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap
hashtable-print-readable backquote threads xwidget-internal dbusbind
inotify dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo
gtk pgtk multi-tty make-network-process native-compile emacs)
Memory information:
((conses 16 87589 6380)
(symbols 48 7542 0)
(strings 32 22801 1813)
(string-bytes 1 651567)
(vectors 16 16272)
(vector-slots 8 344529 13461)
(floats 8 33 41)
(intervals 56 308 1)
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* bug#65771: 29.1; yank-pop behaviour description in info
2023-09-06 3:36 bug#65771: 29.1; yank-pop behaviour description in info Daniel Vianna
@ 2023-09-06 12:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 12:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-09-06 12:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Daniel Vianna; +Cc: 65771
> From: Daniel Vianna <dmlvianna@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 13:36:35 +1000
>
> Started emacs with `emacs -Q`
> C-h i, then browsed to Emacs Intro Tutorial, 10.3 Exercises with Yank and nthcdr
To clarify: this is in the "" manual, the node "yank nthcdr
Exercises".
After reading that node, I don't see where it describes the behavior
incorrectly. What it describes is what M-y does after C-y, and that
didn't change. What _have_ changed is that now M-y can be invoked
after a command other than C-y or M-y. This new behavior is simply
not mentioned in that node.
> Of further interest is that `kill-ring` now stores more than just the strings, but also
> many font properties. I believe this should be noted in the tutorial, so it doesn't confuse
> readers.
When did C-y and M-y NOT yank text with its properties? I thought it
was always the case?
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* bug#65771: 29.1; yank-pop behaviour description in info
2023-09-06 12:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-09-06 12:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-09-06 12:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: dmlvianna; +Cc: 65771
> Cc: 65771@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2023 15:08:29 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
>
> > From: Daniel Vianna <dmlvianna@gmail.com>
> > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2023 13:36:35 +1000
> >
> > Started emacs with `emacs -Q`
> > C-h i, then browsed to Emacs Intro Tutorial, 10.3 Exercises with Yank and nthcdr
>
> To clarify: this is in the "" manual, the node "yank nthcdr
> Exercises".
Sorry, forgot to fill in the blanks. It was supposed to say
To clarify: this is in the "Introduction to Programming in Emacs
Lisp" manual, the node "yank nthcdr Exercises".
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