From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: crypto@timruffing.de, 67810@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com
Subject: bug#67810: 29.1; fonts use synthetic bold on Linux / pgtk
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 13:46:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83bk9qkc53.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a5pa3m9q.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Fri, 12 Jan 2024 17:59:29 +0800)
> From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> Cc: crypto@timruffing.de, stefankangas@gmail.com, 67810@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 17:59:29 +0800
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> >> From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> >> Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
> >> 67810@debbugs.gnu.org
> >> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 09:46:21 +0800
> >>
> >> Tim Ruffing <crypto@timruffing.de> writes:
> >>
> >> > @Po Lu:
> >> > Independent of icons, I still think that overstriking is a bit
> >> > unexpected. (I mean, even Eli didn't know about it.) I see that a font
> >> > regex is too much, but do you think a simple boolean option would be a
> >> > good idea? Or do you think the current behavior should simply be
> >> > documented more prominently?
> >>
> >> I think this is a mechanism users should not understand in this much
> >> technical detail, because font backends might synthesize their bold or
> >> oblique variants by other means when one is requested from a font that
> >> doesn't provide them. Rather, users should understand that Emacs will
> >> seek to display bold text when they specify it should, and that text
> >> which isn't meant to be bold text should not receive text properties
> >> labeling it as such.
> >
> > Would it make sense to introduce a variable that disables synthesizing
> > bold or oblique font variants?
>
> I think it won't until someone informs us of how those features might be
> disabled in the font drivers that perform this. The Mac driver is
> definitely one of them, and possibly the Fontconfig driver as well.
If we do introduce such a variable, wouldn't it prevent Emacs from
generating the missing variants? And wouldn't avoiding to generate
them do what the OP wanted, i.e. have a default face's font where bold
looks like regular?
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2023-12-13 12:03 bug#67810: 29.1; fonts use synthetic bold on Linux / pgtk Tim Ruffing
2023-12-13 12:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-13 13:28 ` Tim Ruffing
2023-12-13 13:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-13 15:09 ` Tim Ruffing
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2023-12-14 9:54 ` Tim Ruffing
2023-12-14 10:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2023-12-14 22:55 ` Stefan Kangas
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