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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: crypto@timruffing.de, 67810@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com
Subject: bug#67810: 29.1; fonts use synthetic bold on Linux / pgtk
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 13:46:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83bk9qkc53.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a5pa3m9q.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Fri, 12 Jan 2024 17:59:29 +0800)

> From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> Cc: crypto@timruffing.de,  stefankangas@gmail.com,  67810@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 17:59:29 +0800
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> >> Cc: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,  Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
> >>   67810@debbugs.gnu.org
> >> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 09:46:21 +0800
> >> 
> >> Tim Ruffing <crypto@timruffing.de> writes:
> >> 
> >> > @Po Lu:
> >> > Independent of icons, I still think that overstriking is a bit
> >> > unexpected. (I mean, even Eli didn't know about it.) I see that a font
> >> > regex is too much, but do you think a simple boolean option would be a
> >> > good idea? Or do you think the current behavior should simply be
> >> > documented more prominently?
> >> 
> >> I think this is a mechanism users should not understand in this much
> >> technical detail, because font backends might synthesize their bold or
> >> oblique variants by other means when one is requested from a font that
> >> doesn't provide them.  Rather, users should understand that Emacs will
> >> seek to display bold text when they specify it should, and that text
> >> which isn't meant to be bold text should not receive text properties
> >> labeling it as such.
> >
> > Would it make sense to introduce a variable that disables synthesizing
> > bold or oblique font variants?
> 
> I think it won't until someone informs us of how those features might be
> disabled in the font drivers that perform this.  The Mac driver is
> definitely one of them, and possibly the Fontconfig driver as well.

If we do introduce such a variable, wouldn't it prevent Emacs from
generating the missing variants?  And wouldn't avoiding to generate
them do what the OP wanted, i.e. have a default face's font where bold
looks like regular?





  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-12 11:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-13 12:03 bug#67810: 29.1; fonts use synthetic bold on Linux / pgtk Tim Ruffing
2023-12-13 12:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-13 13:28   ` Tim Ruffing
2023-12-13 13:39     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-13 15:09       ` Tim Ruffing
2023-12-13 15:43         ` Tim Ruffing
2023-12-14  0:09         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-14  7:28           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-14  9:32             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-14  9:54             ` Tim Ruffing
2023-12-14 10:04               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-14 10:37                 ` Tim Ruffing
2023-12-14 11:19                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-14 11:26                 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-14 15:06                   ` Tim Ruffing
2023-12-14 22:55                     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-11 15:50                       ` Tim Ruffing
2024-01-12  1:46                         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-12  8:37                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12  9:59                             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-12 11:46                               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-01-12 12:20                                 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-12 12:30                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 13:12                                     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-12 14:12                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-13  0:46                                         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-13  6:59                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-14  1:02                                             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-14  6:24                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-14  8:09                                                 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-14  9:33                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-14 13:44                                                     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-14 14:03                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-14 14:19                                                         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-14 14:55                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-15 13:11                                             ` Tim Ruffing
2024-01-13  6:37                           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-14  0:55                             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-14  5:23                               ` Stefan Kangas
2024-01-14 10:20                                 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-14 12:21                                   ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-14 14:10                                     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-14 16:37                                       ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-15  0:36                                         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-15 13:56                                           ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-15 14:02                                             ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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