From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15899: 24.3.50; regression: `region' overlay is lower priority than default Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 08:30:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <83bc9079-2dee-4922-8cdf-f261c1fefc72@default> References: <20137354-f982-4314-9c09-21a5fbc36557@default> <83ob5mi02j.fsf@gnu.org> <83bo1liv80.fsf@gnu.org> <87mwl58yvc.fsf@yandex.ru> <834n7dipnq.fsf@gnu.org> <5286A1AD.1080106@yandex.ru> <83wqk8hgtf.fsf@gnu.org> <52874820.2020601@yandex.ru> <83ob5kh9nb.fsf@gnu.org> <528777D7.1060306@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384619480 1435 80.91.229.3 (16 Nov 2013 16:31:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 16:31:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15899@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov , Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 16 17:31:24 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VhimJ-0000pN-TC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 17:31:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36245 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VhimJ-0004SB-4N for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:31:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37060) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vhim7-0004Rz-B2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:31:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vhily-0000UB-OT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:31:11 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:43335) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vhily-0000U7-Ki for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:31:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vhily-0003dr-4H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:31:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 16:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15899 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15899-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15899.138461944413966 (code B ref 15899); Sat, 16 Nov 2013 16:31:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15899) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Nov 2013 16:30:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57354 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vhilc-0003d8-Ld for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:30:42 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:19355) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vhila-0003cp-16 for 15899@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:30:38 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id rAGGUUMe016114 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 16 Nov 2013 16:30:32 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7022.oracle.com (aserz7022.oracle.com [141.146.126.231]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAGGUTfm023964 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 16 Nov 2013 16:30:30 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0020.oracle.com (abhmp0020.oracle.com [141.146.116.26]) by aserz7022.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAGGUTJa021727; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 16:30:29 GMT In-Reply-To: <528777D7.1060306@yandex.ru> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:80648 Archived-At: > > ... users complaining about the effects of that, and so on and > > so forth ad nauseam. >=20 > This will have to be solved on a package-by-package basis, like > every contentious feature. One user complaint: change the priority > of a package-specific overlay. More complaints to change it in > different directions: add a user option that will set the priority > that overlay. Yes. > > How can you even assume that the "region overlay priority > > won't change", given the possibility and enough pressure from > > users? Once out of the bottle, this genie cannot be easily put back. >=20 > Region priority will have to be set once (to 100, or something), > documented, and then never changed again. Any changes will have to > be made to other overlays' priorities. Yes. But users will also be able to change the priority of the region overlay. You are both right: The overlay genie is a genie, and it will definitely be out of the bottle (Eli). It is only the default region overlay that needs to be defined (well). Users changing that or other priorities can do good and or harm. Emacs Dev need not change the default priority of the region (or any other) overlay, unless it thinks that is appropriate (Dmitry). Think isearch overlay priorities. Have they ever changed? Has there been a deluge of user whining that they need to be changed?