From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New sync'd branch Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:32:02 +0300 Message-ID: <83ab1kcmi5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <878wh9qaku.fsf@sphinx.net.ru> <83praic5r5.fsf@gnu.org> <83d46gcnsb.fsf@gnu.org> <87ocq0l2hw.fsf@iki.fi> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1251451945 18784 80.91.229.12 (28 Aug 2009 09:32:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Teemu Likonen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 28 11:32:18 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Mgxob-0001Xh-U9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:32:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57180 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mgxob-00052E-75 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:32:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MgxoS-00050j-Rw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:32:04 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MgxoQ-0004yy-Bu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:32:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52587 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MgxoQ-0004yi-2x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:32:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:40629) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MgxoP-0000dt-H9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:32:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout7.012.net.il ([84.95.2.19]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MgxoO-0007xT-QD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 05:32:01 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i-mtaout7.012.net.il by i-mtaout7.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KP200D00YE9SX00@i-mtaout7.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:31:58 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.228.144.38]) by i-mtaout7.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KP200JZGYH9BE30@i-mtaout7.012.net.il>; Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:31:58 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87ocq0l2hw.fsf@iki.fi> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-Detected-Operating-System: by mx20.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:114735 Archived-At: > From: Teemu Likonen > Cc: joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:19:23 +0300 > > On 2009-08-28 12:04 (+0300), Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > First, you are probably working on GNU/Linux most of the time. By > > contrast, most of my Emacs development is on MS-Windows, where > > installing git is an adventure at best. Last time I looked (I'd love > > to learn things changed since then), most of git were Unixy shell > > scripts, which means I will need to install Cygwin or MSYS. Each one > > of these needs its own share of learning, tweaking, and getting used > > to. If I had this kind of time, I'd probably install GNU/Linux ion the > > first place. > > The installation is just a click-click thing: > > http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/ Did you actually try to install and set up MSYS on Windows, and then use that in parallel to the native MinGW development environment? I did, so please don't tell me it's ``just a click-click thing''. Installation is just the beginning of your trouble. You install things in order to be able to use them; it's _using_ MSYS together with native environment on the same machine that takes most of the energy. > This "most of Git were Unixy shell scripts" is no longer true. There are > some shell scripts but they are some rarely userd low-level utilities > which I don't even remember what they are at the moment. Git is C code > now. As long as it needs MSYS, the problem is still there for me. Let's face it: Git was invented for GNU/Linux by Linux enthusiasts; it kicks ass on GNU/Linux, but using it on non-Posix platforms is not (and was not supposed to be) a feast.