From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "K. Richard Pixley" <rich@noir.com>
Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: bug#7771: 23.1; can't turn off font-lock-mode globally
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 22:39:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83aajhoh6l.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D223199.2070307@noir.com>
> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 12:29:13 -0800
> From: "K. Richard Pixley" <rich@noir.com>
> CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
>
> On 20110103 11:52, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> >> From: "K. Richard Pixley"<rich@noir.com>
> >> Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 10:40:19 -0800
> >>
> >> I believe that the fix needs to occur at a meta level to font lock.
> > What do you mean by "meta level to font lock"?
> I mean that the mechanism for allowing or barring font lock apparently
> can't be part of the font lock subsystem. It appears as though it will
> need to be outside the font-lock system in order to _gate_ the font lock
> system.
That's what Lennart was proposing, AFAIU.
Btw, do you dislike _all_ colored text in Emacs, or only font-lock?
There are faces Emacs uses that are not related to font-lock at all,
like the "buttons" in *Help* buffers, the minibuffer prompts, the
special face for the part of file-name you type in the minibuffer that
will be ignored because it is before the "//", etc. Then there are
colors not related to text, e.g. the fringes. Do you want a feature
to turn all of those off, or just the font-lock faces?
> It appears as though people may be erroneously conflating font-lock
> modes with syntactic meaning of the underlying text and keying off
> font-lock values rather than the syntactic meanings. This leads to the
> erroneous programmer impression that font-lock is a necessary
> prerequisite for their code, so they force it on.
You are entitled to your opinions, but to me syntax-sensitive colors
are an important feature because they show me my mistakes before they
hit the compiler.
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Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-02 19:17 bug#7771: 23.1; can't turn off font-lock-mode globally K. Richard Pixley
2011-01-02 22:56 ` Leo
2011-01-02 23:19 ` K. Richard Pixley
2011-01-03 8:48 ` Leo
2011-01-02 23:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-03 0:27 ` K. Richard Pixley
2011-01-03 3:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-03 5:57 ` Glenn Morris
2011-01-03 6:00 ` Glenn Morris
[not found] ` <mailman.4.1294035825.27854.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-01-03 6:56 ` K. Richard Pixley
2011-01-03 8:13 ` Drew Adams
2011-01-03 16:42 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-01-03 17:29 ` Drew Adams
2011-01-03 17:32 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-01-03 17:40 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.1.1294073635.27149.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-01-03 18:40 ` K. Richard Pixley
2011-01-03 19:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-03 20:29 ` K. Richard Pixley
2011-01-03 20:39 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2011-01-03 21:02 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-01-03 21:30 ` K. Richard Pixley
2011-01-03 22:04 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-01-03 22:14 ` K. Richard Pixley
[not found] ` <mailman.3.1294088031.614.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-01-03 22:27 ` K. Richard Pixley
[not found] ` <mailman.1.1294028628.27854.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-01-03 22:23 ` K. Richard Pixley
2011-01-04 4:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-04 4:21 ` K. Richard Pixley
2011-01-03 0:29 ` K. Richard Pixley
2011-01-03 1:55 ` Glenn Morris
2011-01-03 3:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-01-03 13:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.30.1294025024.15403.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-01-03 4:10 ` K. Richard Pixley
2011-01-03 5:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-03 6:52 ` K. Richard Pixley
2011-01-03 8:13 ` Drew Adams
2011-01-03 13:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-03 16:00 ` Drew Adams
2011-01-03 18:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-03 18:09 ` Drew Adams
2011-01-03 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.1.1294062865.25287.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-01-03 18:38 ` K. Richard Pixley
[not found] ` <mailman.10.1294043026.27854.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-01-03 18:33 ` K. Richard Pixley
[not found] ` <mailman.22.1294021456.15403.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2011-01-03 4:14 ` K. Richard Pixley
2011-01-03 0:31 ` K. Richard Pixley
2011-01-03 1:20 ` K. Richard Pixley
2011-01-03 1:54 ` Glenn Morris
2011-01-03 2:08 ` Glenn Morris
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