From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.comp.lib.gnulib.bugs Subject: Re: Still unable to build trunk Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:14:27 +0200 Message-ID: <83aaiqyxrw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y66fv2d3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4D388F7F.20708@swipnet.se> <87r5c7jk5m.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4D39EF9C.1050804@cs.ucla.edu> <4D3A8666.4070609@cs.ucla.edu> <877hdvd49f.fsf@meyering.net> <83mxmrzhb6.fsf@gnu.org> <4D3C9C5B.8050303@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1295892919 27210 80.91.229.12 (24 Jan 2011 18:15:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:15:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, jan.h.d@swipnet.se, bug-gnulib@gnu.org, jim@meyering.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 24 19:15:14 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PhQwZ-00022F-Uv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 19:15:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59419 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PhQwZ-0003GO-4U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:15:11 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=41483 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PhQwS-0003FX-LR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:15:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PhQwR-0004zv-Jf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:15:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:41131) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PhQwJ-0004yO-5e; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 13:14:55 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LFJ00C00H9OA400@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:14:06 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.46.39]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LFJ00CAIHBG1530@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:14:06 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <4D3C9C5B.8050303@cs.ucla.edu> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:134899 gmane.comp.lib.gnulib.bugs:24887 Archived-At: > Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:23:39 -0800 > From: Paul Eggert > CC: Jim Meyering , cyd@stupidchicken.com, > jan.h.d@swipnet.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org, bug-gnulib > > I dunno, I just started doing some Emacs development after > about five years' absence, and it was a pretty steep learning > curve for me. For example, nowhere is it stated that one > really should use the obsolescent Python version 2.6.6, > and that the current Python versions 2.7.1 and 3.1.3 > do not work well with the current bzr version. No one complained about this in the past, I think, otherwise it would have been in INSTALL.BZR. However, the issue seems to be more related to bzr installation on GNU/Linux or maybe to the various maintainers of the bzr packages on GNU/Linux, than to Emacs: the Bazaar download page (http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/DistroDownloads) doesn't tell the requirements wrt Python and the Installation FAQ (http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/InstallationFaq) says only this: "Python >= 2.4". Perhaps it would make sense to report this on the Bazaar mailing list (bazaar@lists.canonical.com). Any other issues that make the curve steep? > Anyway, the point is moot, no? Right now the Emacs VCS > builds out of the box with the same tools as before. > Maintainers don't need to have automake installed > unless they also want to do gnulib-related development, > for which automake is required anyway. Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought something like "autoreconf -I m4" was needed to build successfully after synchronizing with the repository, if my last synchronization was before the import from gnulib. If that's not true, are you saying that just "./configure" should be enough?