From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Abolishing ChangeLog files Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:50:00 +0300 Message-ID: <83a9pm5vl3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y5d9p5td.fsf@dex.adm.naquadah.org> <87vc8dtbcb.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871ub1gmdf.fsf@engster.org> <87d2ulovd0.fsf@dex.adm.naquadah.org> <85r4j0h1ww.fsf@member.fsf.org> <85li98h1qx.fsf@member.fsf.org> <87ehf0b3x2.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87obe3gaem.fsf@engster.org> <87ip4bj1ay.fsf_-_@earth.home> <83wqsrwkim.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9pn5tlf.fsf@yandex.ru> <83txnvwhqw.fsf@gnu.org> <5154B063.2050904@yandex.ru> <83li97w6um.fsf@gnu.org> <5154C76B.6090303@yandex.ru> <83hajuwygn.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9pmwxb5.fsf@gnu.org> <87boa24sg8.fsf@gmail.com> <838v56wumf.fsf@gnu.org> <874nfubnyl.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83d2ui5zsy.fsf@gnu.org> <8738vebjn7.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364554187 9937 80.91.229.3 (29 Mar 2013 10:49:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:49:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 29 11:50:14 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ULWst-0005vO-GF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:50:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57556 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULWsV-0008MN-8H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 06:49:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55624) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULWsR-0008MG-OT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 06:49:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULWsP-0005jT-Gh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 06:49:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:58363) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ULWsP-0005gX-9I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 06:49:41 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MKF00G004Q9A800@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:49:39 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MKF00GQ84QRA000@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 13:49:39 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <8738vebjn7.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158418 Archived-At: > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, > thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 19:11:24 +0900 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Possibly. But I would expect numbers, even approximate (counting > > seconds is easy), instead of references to docs. > > It's hard to count seconds that would have passed if you didn't C-c > out. ;-) Well, I wouldn't expect anyone to type C-c less than 4 sec after launching a command. But if a lightweight checkout is being used, I can understand all the rest, including the long times. That is not the recommended workflow, though. > And since YMMV, the reference to docs shows that the Bazaar > developers have acknowledged performance issues, even if not all > users experience them. I'd rather assume the docs are outdated. Won't be the first time with bzr.