From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tag cleanup Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2014 09:00:12 +0200 Message-ID: <83a9f5ej2b.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20140109053729.E9DC43805F2@snark.thyrsus.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389250831 15450 80.91.229.3 (9 Jan 2014 07:00:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 07:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 09 08:00:37 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W19bY-0007yG-Rw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 08:00:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50344 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W19bY-00033R-I4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 02:00:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49904) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W19bM-00033J-OU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 02:00:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W19bF-0004c6-Hy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 02:00:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:60965) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W19bF-0004bq-AR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 02:00:17 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MZ400300GM2FK00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 09:00:16 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MZ4003LAGSF7Z60@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 09:00:16 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <20140109053729.E9DC43805F2@snark.thyrsus.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167863 Archived-At: > From: esr@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 00:37:29 -0500 (EST) > > Please examine this list of tag names, I want to know which should > be thrown out to reduce clutter. I think everything except EMACS_PRETEST_* and emacs-xx.yy (why the different letter-case and syntax, btw?) should be removed. Those other tags are of no importance once the corresponding features have landed on mainline. For example, emacs-bidi-base can certainly go. But please wait for the "owners" of those other tags to speak up, I don't want to usurp anyone's tags. > The question is what out of the remainder is dispensable clutter. > The *PRETEST* labels seem like obvious candates The fate of the pretest tags depends on whether we will continue using such tags in the future. Emacs pretests are normally quite long, so a pretest emacs-24.3.90 is very similar to a released version, and the number of commits between it and the next pretest will generally be very large. So, if the git experts say that "git describe" and its middle field are important, I'd rather see there a small enough number than something of 6 digits. If we leave those pretest tags (I think we should), then they are better renamed to something like emacs-pretest-xx.yy.zz.