From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs for Windows
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 22:56:40 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83a953aebr.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvoatj7p6w.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.help@gnu.org>
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 14:34:11 -0400
>
> >> I mean, distribution via zip files is so painful for the user who has to
> >> figure out on his own how to upgrade from one version to another, plus
> >> all the dependencies, etc...
> > If the package is done well, then all the dependencies are already
> > bundled. And then all you need is unzip the file. How hard can that
> > be?
>
> How is that going to tell you when a bugfix release has been released?
You watch the site where you downloaded the previous one from.
> How is that going to choose where to unzip?
It doesn't. _You_ decide. Some see that as an advantage.
> How is that going to uninstall the old version?
No need, the new files will overwrite the old ones.
> And of course, you end up with umpteen copies of the dependencies, but
> I guess only anal-retentive nit pickers will care about the wasted disk
> and RAM space.
Exactly. Besides, other packages, not yet updated, could still need
the old dependencies anyway. Even the omniscient installers always
ask you whether to remove shared libraries they _think_ are no longer
needed (and I personally always say NO).
> >> How do people live with that?
> > I can tell you that no one ever asked me to provide the binary zips I
> > upload in any other form. Which makes me think there is no problem.
>
> In the absence of a package manager, there's of course no other form
> that could be requested, indeed.
The other form is some kind of installer.
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Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-09 9:43 Emacs for Windows Alexander Shukaev
2014-10-09 18:07 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2014-10-09 22:37 ` E Sabof
2014-10-10 1:07 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2014-10-10 2:49 ` E Sabof
2014-10-10 3:13 ` John Mastro
2014-10-10 3:32 ` Glenn Morris
2014-10-10 6:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 6:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 12:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-10 12:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 13:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-10 14:16 ` David Engster
2014-10-10 15:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 16:04 ` David Engster
2014-10-10 16:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 16:20 ` David Engster
2014-10-10 16:23 ` David Engster
2014-10-10 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 19:13 ` David Engster
2014-10-10 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-19 16:40 ` Noam Postavsky
2014-10-11 15:46 ` Robert Thorpe
2014-10-11 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 16:22 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-11 20:14 ` Robert Thorpe
2014-10-10 15:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 17:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-10 18:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 18:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-10 19:56 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2014-10-11 13:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-11 14:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 14:44 ` David Engster
2014-10-11 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 16:25 ` David Engster
2014-10-11 16:41 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-11 16:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 17:19 ` David Engster
2014-10-11 17:38 ` David Engster
2014-10-11 17:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 17:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 17:58 ` David Engster
2014-10-10 15:44 ` Glenn Morris
2014-10-10 15:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 18:34 ` Grant Rettke
2014-10-10 18:46 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2014-10-11 15:38 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-11 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 16:00 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-11 16:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 16:18 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-11 16:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-11 19:40 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-12 6:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-12 11:53 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-12 9:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-12 12:13 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-10-12 13:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-10 20:38 ` E Sabof
2014-10-10 23:57 ` John Mastro
2014-10-11 2:05 ` E Sabof
2014-10-11 6:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-10-12 9:09 ` E Sabof
[not found] ` <mailman.10884.1412944630.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-10-11 14:55 ` Mirko
2014-10-10 2:08 ` Grant Rettke
2014-10-21 19:38 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
[not found] <mailman.10793.1412858774.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-10-15 4:52 ` Bug Dout
2014-10-15 13:23 ` tux-
[not found] ` <CAKu-7Wzt6kD83or9xcSgSXi3Lqsc81fpvjq6RLUGZri4oZPT1Q@mail.gmail.com>
2014-10-15 15:23 ` Alexander Shukaev
2014-10-15 15:50 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-10-15 15:52 ` Alexander Shukaev
2014-10-15 21:54 ` John Mastro
[not found] ` <mailman.11194.1413386616.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-10-21 16:26 ` Jason Rumney
2014-10-21 17:58 ` John Mastro
2014-11-05 23:57 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
2014-11-06 1:32 ` John Mastro
2014-11-06 1:36 ` John Mastro
2014-11-20 5:30 ` Nikolay Kudryavtsev
[not found] ` <mailman.14138.1416461463.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-11-30 17:27 ` Bug Dout
2014-11-30 20:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-06 1:56 ` Sampath Weerasinghe
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