From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21780: 25.0.50; Saving *Help* results in bad encoding because of curly quotes Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 09:28:11 +0200 Message-ID: <83a8qzzed0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <48a87436-595a-4f65-9e3c-094f6d77ee96@default> <83eggcytam.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1vwyt02.fsf@gnu.org> <86bnbgot1t.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1446276564 15486 80.91.229.3 (31 Oct 2015 07:29:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 07:29:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21780@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andy Moreton Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 31 08:29:12 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsQb8-0003S3-RY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 08:29:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54541 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsQb7-0006aG-NR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:29:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59667) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsQb3-0006Zh-GF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:29:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsQb0-0004vB-9C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:29:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:55977) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsQb0-0004v7-6a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:29:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsQaz-0001Em-UE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:29:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 07:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21780 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21780-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21780.14462765084707 (code B ref 21780); Sat, 31 Oct 2015 07:29:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21780) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Oct 2015 07:28:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46685 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsQaR-0001Dq-Qm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:28:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout26.012.net.il ([80.179.55.182]:59642) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZsQa6-0001DM-Fq for 21780@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 03:28:25 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout26.012.net.il by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NX200500PZE1P00@mtaout26.012.net.il> for 21780@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 09:31:34 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.94.185.246]) by mtaout26.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NX2002N0Q8MUF20@mtaout26.012.net.il>; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 09:31:34 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <86bnbgot1t.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:108220 Archived-At: > From: Andy Moreton > Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 23:06:22 +0000 > > On Fri 30 Oct 2015, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 22:50:57 +0200 > >> From: Eli Zaretskii > >> Cc: 21780@debbugs.gnu.org > >> > >> If you want to have Unix EOLs by default, the correct customization is > >> this: > >> > >> (setq-default buffer-file-coding-system > >> (coding-system-change-eol-conversion > >> buffer-file-coding-system 'unix)) > > > > This variant is better: > > > > (setq-default buffer-file-coding-system > > (coding-system-change-eol-conversion > > default-buffer-file-coding-system 'unix)) > > Why ? Help for `default-buffer-file-coding-system' says: > > This variable is obsolete since 23.2; > use ‘buffer-file-coding-system’ instead. Then use (default-value buffer-file-coding-system) instead. The point being to use the default value to modify the default value. When this code runs, the current buffer should have the same value as its buffer-local value, but I preferred not to rely on that. > I think Drew's version was fine. What Drew's version? The one that unconditionally used undecided-unix as the default? I very much disagree.