From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 23:18:37 +0200 Message-ID: <83a8mat2aa.fsf@gnu.org> References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <87vb4zb0i4.fsf@gnu.org> <837fheuu6a.fsf@gnu.org> <877fheb1rh.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87ziua9mwq.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83h9git36k.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb4y9ep9.fsf@wanadoo.es> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457385526 18494 80.91.229.3 (7 Mar 2016 21:18:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 21:18:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 07 22:18:42 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ad2Y4-0006nA-38 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:18:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58664 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ad2Y3-0000BW-Hs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 16:18:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55739) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ad2Xy-00008R-Jg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 16:18:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ad2Xu-00025f-JB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 16:18:34 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52313) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ad2Xu-00025W-G4; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 16:18:30 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1753 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ad2Xt-0004tp-PJ; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 16:18:30 -0500 In-reply-to: <87vb4y9ep9.fsf@wanadoo.es> (message from =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3s?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?car?= Fuentes on Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:10:42 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201080 Archived-At: > From: Óscar Fuentes > Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 22:10:42 +0100 > > > You are not addressing any of the problems we have with the existing > > practice, which attempted to do exactly that. > > > > The current situation is unacceptable. > > Of course I'm addressing the problem: ditch changelogs, require quality > log messages and put to good use our VC tool. Requiring something that is not enforceable, with mistakes that cannot be corrected, is exactly what we were doing for the past year. That's what isn't working.