From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24603: [PATCHv5 08/11] Implement rules for title-casing Dutch ij =?UTF-8?Q?=E2=80=98letter=E2=80=99?= (bug#24603) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 11:40:16 +0200 Message-ID: <83a88sdudb.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20170309215150.9562-1-mina86@mina86.com> <20170309215150.9562-9-mina86@mina86.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1489225280 32299 195.159.176.226 (11 Mar 2017 09:41:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 09:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 24603@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michal Nazarewicz Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 11 10:41:14 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cmdWR-0007DT-Ch for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2017 10:41:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42590 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmdWV-0004BA-QG for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2017 04:41:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43376) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmdWL-0004At-A4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2017 04:41:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmdWI-0001Xe-5P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2017 04:41:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:52065) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmdWI-0001XU-0k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2017 04:41:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cmdWH-0004G3-Qk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2017 04:41:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2017 09:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24603 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 24603-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24603.148922524416334 (code B ref 24603); Sat, 11 Mar 2017 09:41:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24603) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Mar 2017 09:40:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50264 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cmdW0-0004FO-9D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2017 04:40:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52353) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cmdVz-0004FD-C2 for 24603@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2017 04:40:43 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmdVr-0001NG-3b for 24603@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Mar 2017 04:40:38 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40233) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmdVr-0001NC-0I; Sat, 11 Mar 2017 04:40:35 -0500 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4788 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cmdVq-0007Zs-7V; Sat, 11 Mar 2017 04:40:34 -0500 In-reply-to: <20170309215150.9562-9-mina86@mina86.com> (message from Michal Nazarewicz on Thu, 9 Mar 2017 22:51:47 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:130472 Archived-At: > From: Michal Nazarewicz > Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 22:51:47 +0100 > > + /* In Dutch, ‘ij’ is a digraph and when capitalised the whole thing is upper > + cased. Unicode has ‘ij’ and ‘IJ’ (with proper casing mappings) but they > + aren’t always used so we cannot/should not rely on them. > + > + Note that rule for capitalising ‘ij’ as a single letter is not present in > + Unicode 9.0’s SpecialCasing.txt. On the flip side, Firefox implements > + this as well so we’re not completely alone. If this is not mandated by Unicode 9.0 (and not by the latest draft of 10.0, AFAICS), shouldn't we have a user option for this, by default off? > + There are words where ‘ij’ are two separate letters (such as bijectie or > + bijoux) in which case the capitalisation rules do not apply. I (mina86) > + have googled this a little and couldn’t find a Dutch word which beings > + with ‘ij’ that is not a digraph so we should be in the clear since we > + only care about the initial. */ I'm not sure I get this right: does this mean that writing in English (or any other non-Dutch language) in a Dutch locale will automatically capitalize "ij" to "IJ", just because the default value of buffer-language is "nl_NL" or somesuch, and no specific language was set for the buffer? Wouldn't that surprise users?