From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: hierarchy Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 17:39:27 +0300 Message-ID: <83a80jb61s.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sheh8wuv.fsf@cassou.me> <834lqtc64l.fsf@gnu.org> <87k1zn8gk3.fsf@cassou.me> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1508683193 5901 195.159.176.226 (22 Oct 2017 14:39:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 14:39:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: johnw@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Damien Cassou Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 22 16:39:47 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e6HPj-0000BZ-1Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 16:39:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33137 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e6HPq-0003NU-Ek for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 10:39:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50761) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e6HPd-0003KL-FB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 10:39:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e6HPc-00027B-OP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 10:39:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40338) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e6HPX-000258-OH; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 10:39:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1490 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1e6HPX-0003Et-7q; Sun, 22 Oct 2017 10:39:31 -0400 In-reply-to: <87k1zn8gk3.fsf@cassou.me> (message from Damien Cassou on Sun, 22 Oct 2017 15:20:44 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:219674 Archived-At: > From: Damien Cassou > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2017 15:20:44 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > How about adding this to Emacs core instead? I think built-in > > capabilities such as these are long overdue, and Emacs should offer > > such basics out of the box. > > If you think Emacs would benefit from having hierarchy included I do, see above. > My philosophy is more in the opposite direction (getting rid of as > much as possible in the core As much as possible, but no more than that, I presume? Then the issue here is whether this capability should or shouldn't be in core, as other basics. I think it should.