From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Fix some tooltip related problems Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:59:30 +0200 Message-ID: <83a7xk46pp.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5A533FA4.4030507@gmx.at> <9384bae5-cbb9-4b4d-ac5c-1d01f01c8117@default> <5A53B633.5020706@gmx.at> <41d40db5-15d8-4b2c-a058-fb6dabc8bfd3@default> <5A548E7E.2040601@gmx.at> <5A55E8ED.1010602@gmx.at> <475d480b-3885-4779-ae46-09cf7fbbcee7@default> <5A5742E7.3070303@gmx.at> <5A5799A5.1070305@gmx.at> <878td4fh4r.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1515693499 1468 195.159.176.226 (11 Jan 2018 17:58:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 17:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 11 18:58:15 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eZh7A-0008DH-V9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:58:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59364 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZh9A-0007Fo-Pm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:00:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34999) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZh8a-0007ER-Ev for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2018 12:59:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZh8X-0006FU-84 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 11 Jan 2018 12:59:36 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51546) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eZh8X-0006FQ-51; Thu, 11 Jan 2018 12:59:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3191 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eZh8W-0000g6-Ky; Thu, 11 Jan 2018 12:59:32 -0500 In-reply-to: <878td4fh4r.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:19:00 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:221847 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pluim > Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2018 18:19:00 +0100 > > How much of an outcry would there be if I proposed removing Lucid and > Motif support completely for Emacs 27, as a first step to getting rid > of the unholy mix of X and GTK we're currently doing? A lot. I'm firmly against removing toolkits to appease GTK. I think GTK is an unholy mess, which can some day simply stop being supported, and we definitely shouldn't lose useful features in its favor.