From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On obsoleting defcustoms Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 10:16:05 +0200 Message-ID: <83a6vly8my.fsf@gnu.org> References: > <83lfh743j8.fsf@gnu.org>> <53945b2b-cb3f-4823-85e1-ff8676f10161@default> <2783fdfd-d5d4-4b68-b1d9-27a7cba1efdb@default> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33020"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefan@marxist.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 13 09:17:18 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kdUGj-0008SX-Il for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 09:17:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44390 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdUGi-0004WA-Lj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 03:17:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34666) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdUFw-00044q-Fm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 03:16:29 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:43151) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdUFv-0002H6-P4; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 03:16:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=1316 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kdUFo-0004Zu-N1; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 03:16:23 -0500 In-Reply-To: <2783fdfd-d5d4-4b68-b1d9-27a7cba1efdb@default> (message from Drew Adams on Thu, 12 Nov 2020 17:59:34 -0800 (PST)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:259123 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2020 17:59:34 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > Not showing it in `M-x customize-group' seems like a > > good compromise. > > If it no longer works, yes. But in that case we > should raise an error, not issue a compiler warning. > > If it does still work then I see no reason why we'd > remove it from `customize-group'. Especially if > `customize-option' still works etc. This makes no > sense to me. (Just one opinion.) Your opinion is noted. I think otherwise, and so does Stefan; others who chimed in didn't think the idea was wrong, either. So let's agree to disagree, and please let's stop arguing about this aspect of the issue. Our decision is that we want to remove the obsolete options from display where that makes sense, to advertise them less.