From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Vasilij Schneidermann <mail@vasilij.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Obtaining a database of new functionality per Emacs version
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2020 20:17:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83a6up8oqg.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X85rTwIFDvFFEIxp@odonien.localdomain> (message from Vasilij Schneidermann on Mon, 7 Dec 2020 18:50:07 +0100)
> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2020 18:50:07 +0100
> From: Vasilij Schneidermann <mail@vasilij.de>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> > Did you try "make TAGS" in the top-level directory, followed by
> > searching the TAGS files?
>
> Thanks, that's the kind of idea I'm looking for. I'd still need to diff
> that output against that of an older Emacs version to find out what has
> been removed/added between the releases, but that's fine. Another
> problem is that it includes helper functions that aren't part of a
> public API.
I thought the latter problem will not be an issue in your case, since
my mental model of what you want was that you have a function in hand
and want to check whether it was available in Emacs XX.YY. In which
case you will never need to look for internal functions.
> > Manually or automatically? If manually, the result will be as
> > accurate and comprehensive as NEWS. If automatically, please tell
> > what kind of implementation you have in mind.
>
> Manually, similar to how version information is added to customizables.
That needs Someone™ to be extra vigilant and double-check any changes
that add functions to prod people to mark them with a version tag. My
experience with being that cop in defcustoms case is that the
probability of some falling through the cracks is non-negligible.
> The gain is having a machine-readable version you can consult from a
> Lisp program. Who knows, maybe you could use it to make an Emacs Lisp
> spec independent implementations could target...
I know of libraries that have this as part of their SOPs, but Emacs is
so much larger than any library that I doubt if this scales well
enough. So I don't believe such manual procedures will be reliable
enough in Emacs. One possible idea is to have a Git commit hook that
would reject commits with new functions if they fail to include the
necessary tag.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-07 18:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-07 12:23 Obtaining a database of new functionality per Emacs version Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-12-07 15:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-07 18:11 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-12-07 18:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-07 19:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-07 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-07 17:50 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-12-07 18:17 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2020-12-07 20:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-07 20:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-07 20:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-10 7:31 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-10 14:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-10 16:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-10 17:22 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-12-10 17:59 ` Stefan Monnier
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