From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Motif support
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2021 08:42:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83a6grx1o9.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ilvgwfor.fsf@telefonica.net> (message from Óscar Fuentes on Wed, 22 Dec 2021 21:24:52 +0100)
> From: Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es>
> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 21:24:52 +0100
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> >> >> Games usually do all GUI drawing themselves.
> >> > So you are saying that so should we??
> >>
> >> Believe it or not, Emacs is much more reminiscent of a game engine than
> >> a desktop app.
> >
> > I indeed don't believe it.
>
> I agree with the OP. Emacs does a lot of micro-management of graphical
> elements and does its own event processing. That's distinctive of games.
There's a large chasm between "micro-management of graphical elements
and own event processing" and doing all the GUI by hand, bit by bit.
It is far from being black-and-white. And Emacs is very far from the
edge you seem to be saying we are at or near. You are invited to read
the code and see for yourself.
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2021-12-22 19:19 Motif support xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-22 19:35 ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-22 19:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-22 20:24 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-23 6:42 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-12-23 7:58 ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23 8:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-23 11:46 ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23 11:52 ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 12:43 ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-23 12:52 ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 17:35 ` Arthur Miller
2021-12-24 0:38 ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 1:17 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 1:24 ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 1:37 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 7:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24 8:06 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 8:24 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-24 8:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24 2:20 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-24 2:43 ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 2:59 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-12-24 3:17 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 3:26 ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 3:36 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 7:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24 4:30 ` Platform independent graphical display for Emacs Stefan Kangas
2021-12-24 4:44 ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 6:28 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-24 6:43 ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 5:24 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-12-24 7:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24 8:10 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 8:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24 8:48 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-25 0:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 7:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 11:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 11:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 11:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 12:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 12:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 13:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 12:06 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 13:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 13:36 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 12:20 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-25 12:29 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 12:49 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 12:54 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 13:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 13:07 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 13:09 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-25 13:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 14:08 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-25 14:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 13:39 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 13:44 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-25 12:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 13:00 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-25 13:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 13:11 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-25 13:17 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-25 13:26 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-25 13:27 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-25 11:51 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 13:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 13:31 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 14:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-12-25 14:30 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-26 1:12 ` Po Lu
2021-12-26 1:51 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-12-26 1:56 ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 9:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-24 10:02 ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 10:16 ` Stephen Berman
2021-12-24 10:54 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 11:07 ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 11:29 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 11:31 ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 11:39 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 12:08 ` Po Lu
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2021-12-24 12:27 ` Po Lu
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2021-12-24 13:09 ` Po Lu
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2021-12-24 16:05 ` martin rudalics
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2021-12-26 10:16 ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 11:45 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-24 12:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24 13:19 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-24 13:26 ` Po Lu
2021-12-24 14:00 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-25 0:20 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 0:47 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-25 0:57 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 3:24 ` Jose A. Ortega Ruiz
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2021-12-25 5:12 ` Jose Antonio Ortega Ruiz
2021-12-25 5:23 ` Po Lu
2021-12-25 6:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2021-12-25 5:41 ` LdBeth
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2021-12-24 13:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24 14:19 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-12-24 11:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-25 12:45 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-24 7:17 ` Motif support Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-24 0:46 ` Po Lu
2021-12-23 15:05 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2021-12-23 15:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
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