From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Corwin Brust <corwin@bru.st>
Cc: dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de, arash@gnu.org,
phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Native compilation on Windows, was Re: Bootstrap Compilation Speed
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2022 18:53:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83a6f751te.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJf-WoQyCo7YT07yMAaK4YUU2n8sF3YdLb9FReX9ah_-h=N64w@mail.gmail.com> (message from Corwin Brust on Thu, 3 Feb 2022 07:57:32 -0600)
> From: Corwin Brust <corwin@bru.st>
> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 07:57:32 -0600
> Cc: "H. Dieter Wilhelm" <dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de>, Arash Esbati <arash@gnu.org>,
> Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>, Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>
>
> > > As an interesting aside: I see that it *is* loading the natively
> > > compiled sources that were build and packaged with Emacs. This is
> > > despite getting a nil return from `native-comp-avialable-p', which
> > > suggests that even people without a local libgccjit+gcc (e.g. a
> > > working MSYS) can benefit from (the bundled) nativly compiled sources
> > > we distribute. [[stroking chin myscheviously]]
> >
> > This is the expected behavior. Only native-compilation of *.el files
> > for which no *.eln files are provided is disabled without libgccjit
> > and Binutils installation. Loading of existing *.eln files doesn't
> > need libgccjit.
> >
> > So I'm not sure why you are surprised.
>
> Now that ask, I'm not sure either.
>
> Should we consider adding NATIVE_FULL_AOT when building the windows
> distribution?
You could, but that still means users cannot modify the *.el files and
get them recompiled.
Whether NATIVE_FULL_AOT is worth is: it is yet to be determined. I
tend to think we should provide a default build, and only use
NATIVE_FULL_AOT if other platforms do that (which will not happen
before Emacs 28 is released and we collect feedback from users and
downstream distributions).
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2022-01-14 11:36 Bootstrap Compilation Speed phillip.lord
2022-01-14 13:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-14 14:16 ` phillip.lord
2022-01-15 9:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-15 11:29 ` phillip.lord
2022-01-15 10:29 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-15 11:28 ` phillip.lord
2022-01-15 16:24 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-15 19:06 ` Native compilation on Windows, was " H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-15 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-15 19:27 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-16 11:47 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-16 12:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17 9:39 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-17 12:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17 14:07 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-17 14:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17 16:25 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-17 18:07 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-17 18:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17 20:25 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-17 20:46 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-18 16:38 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-18 19:37 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-18 19:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-18 21:36 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-19 0:02 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-19 7:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 14:26 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-19 14:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 18:38 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-19 14:01 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-19 18:59 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-19 20:21 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-20 7:12 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-20 14:32 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-20 22:56 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-21 6:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-21 11:07 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-21 12:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-21 19:22 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-21 19:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-22 10:30 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-22 10:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-25 19:45 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-25 19:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-26 19:49 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-21 12:21 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-21 12:51 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-21 12:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-21 17:48 ` phillip.lord
2022-01-21 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-21 19:47 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-21 19:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-21 19:58 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-22 12:52 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-22 12:40 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-22 12:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-22 17:56 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-21 9:05 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-22 21:51 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-22 22:52 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-23 21:16 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-24 3:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-24 4:17 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-24 15:43 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-24 16:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-24 18:28 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-24 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
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[not found] ` <83zgnkijfo.fsf@gnu.org>
2022-01-25 10:34 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-25 12:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-25 13:46 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-25 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-30 11:57 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-30 14:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-30 18:12 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-30 18:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-30 21:31 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-25 10:45 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-26 4:40 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-19 18:33 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-19 7:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 13:57 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-19 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 18:48 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-29 21:32 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-29 22:01 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-29 22:23 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-30 1:58 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-30 10:13 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-30 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-30 21:33 ` Arash Esbati
2022-01-30 22:16 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-31 10:57 ` Arash Esbati
2022-01-31 15:58 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-31 22:17 ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-01 12:45 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-01 15:28 ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-02-01 19:26 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-01 18:38 ` Arash Esbati
2022-02-01 19:02 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-01 19:10 ` Arash Esbati
2022-02-01 19:27 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-01 21:56 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-03 3:22 ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-03 7:10 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-03 7:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-03 13:57 ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-03 16:53 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-02-03 17:45 ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-02 22:06 ` Phillip Lord
2022-02-02 23:28 ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-04 10:12 ` Phillip Lord
2022-02-02 23:31 ` Corwin Brust
2022-01-31 12:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-02 22:04 ` Phillip Lord
2022-02-02 22:22 ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-04 10:05 ` Phillip Lord
2022-02-03 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-21 21:59 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-22 3:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-23 6:44 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-23 9:32 ` Arash Esbati
2022-02-23 18:30 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-23 12:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-27 10:49 ` Acquiring dependencies for Windows builds, was: Native compilation on Windows H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-27 11:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-28 21:51 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-03-01 13:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-03-08 15:52 ` Acquiring dependencies for Windows builds H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-03-08 16:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-31 12:26 ` Native compilation on Windows, was Re: Bootstrap Compilation Speed Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-30 2:37 ` chad
2022-01-30 12:29 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-01 17:17 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-01 17:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-01 18:59 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-01 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-02 10:36 ` Robert Pluim
2022-02-02 11:28 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-02 12:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-02 13:00 ` Robert Pluim
2022-02-02 15:23 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-02 16:20 ` Robert Pluim
2022-02-02 17:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-02 17:58 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-02 18:18 ` Robert Pluim
2022-02-01 19:00 ` chad
2022-02-01 19:08 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-02 22:12 ` Phillip Lord
2022-02-05 21:46 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-05 23:18 ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-06 15:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-06 17:21 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-07 12:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-09 18:23 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-09 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-09 20:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-09 23:32 ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-10 10:28 ` Robert Pluim
2022-02-02 21:58 ` Phillip Lord
2022-02-02 22:09 ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-03 6:25 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-02-03 13:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-05 21:34 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-30 7:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 18:46 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-19 19:25 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-19 18:28 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-17 9:44 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-17 16:08 ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-01-17 17:23 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-17 17:46 ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-01-17 19:09 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-17 20:21 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-18 9:03 ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-18 14:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-18 15:09 ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-01-18 16:40 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-15 22:14 ` phillip.lord
2022-01-15 22:32 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
2022-01-16 8:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17 9:34 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-01-17 9:56 ` Phillip Lord
2022-01-17 12:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-16 14:31 ` H. Dieter Wilhelm
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