From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New Package for NonGNU-ELPA: clojure-ts-mode Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2023 22:05:28 +0300 Message-ID: <83a5udlj47.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87il9kksqz.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87a5uw9ivs.fsf@posteo.net> <87ttt42gna.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87wmy080kn.fsf@posteo.net> <83v8djcydl.fsf@gnu.org> <87350ndquw.fsf@dfreeman.email> <83350ncbns.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyzrjbd8.fsf@dfreeman.email> <83zg2vav46.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7j99304.fsf@dfreeman.email> <87wmxj27fn.fsf@dfreeman.email> <831qfrptiq.fsf@gnu.org> <57429221-d9be-5791-e975-b3539905e2f6@gutov.dev> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9221"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: danny@dfreeman.email, stefankangas@gmail.com, philipk@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, manuel.uberti@inventati.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 26 21:06:27 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qZyc6-0002AR-Qx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 26 Aug 2023 21:06:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qZybK-00010f-RR; Sat, 26 Aug 2023 15:05:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qZybI-00010S-4n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Aug 2023 15:05:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qZybF-0000Ih-5q; Sat, 26 Aug 2023 15:05:33 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=kRVpSJe2R1+NPegaU/0m7X/euDAfQ8K9cH+q+Uskl90=; b=q+w4Jp0MccvN rj+qsafsLok39P++6jVdOkyykLqeOEoQZyqjSL8F8j/4fxFhUv9UNQSZtmLC7E/YWrp3W7SoGPY4j Fp9z6XWSGOEuHnw1dPJRwYJSl74iu5ra4FzWine7NUnpDSCVFt6z8XK1CmUk1L5oQ+CMEh117riRi autMVE8VgDVs+bRxYpRKhi/SsDRXVk/+wEqTO4iRwFh8s1aMzskG4pMRLzkp446zB3yLRxPr3ZHVe Ts4ErWDjw4f5rQcDHDyrUOJmWMtYpFt9x64pL04PjtV4NZVn6tNtpVTUx2WQ4wwLBRfo5UPl9+etx nhy3xzHpHmjY3cSeRq5Nvg==; In-Reply-To: <57429221-d9be-5791-e975-b3539905e2f6@gutov.dev> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sat, 26 Aug 2023 21:52:31 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309275 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2023 21:52:31 +0300 > Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, philipk@posteo.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org, > manuel.uberti@inventati.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > > On 25/08/2023 08:42, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > IME, the development model of Emacs is an important reason why Emacs > > is still alive and kicking almost 40 years since it was first > > developed. And important major modes in Emacs are alive and kicking > > with it. So inclusion in Emacs and the pains of adjusting to a > > different development model are justified if one wants the major mode > > to remain alive for many years to come. Something to think about, I > > guess. > > Or the longevity stems from other reasons (e.g. good fundamental ideas, > unique proposition, being part of the original GNU system, ...), and the > development process is the reason the current user base is a fraction of > even Vim's (not to mention popular commercial offerings). > > Just an alternative POV to consider. In truth, could be a little of both. Mine wasn't a POV, it was an observation based on many years of watching the development and being part of it.