From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New Package for NonGNU-ELPA: clojure-ts-mode Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2023 15:10:02 +0300 Message-ID: <83a5u4ai91.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87il9kksqz.fsf@dfreeman.email> <8734zztmiz.fsf@localhost> <87sf7zqs3l.fsf@yahoo.com> <87il8vs6e7.fsf@localhost> <87jztbqrc9.fsf@yahoo.com> <877cpbs5a0.fsf@localhost> <87fs3zqqgj.fsf@yahoo.com> <874jkfs4o0.fsf@localhost> <87y1hroz47.fsf@posteo.net> <83cyz2ctp0.fsf@gnu.org> <87msy6rzeg.fsf@localhost> <83wmxab0ym.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8cuqg8d.fsf@localhost> <83ttseava1.fsf@gnu.org> <87zg26hvfq.fsf@localhost> <83o7imatsn.fsf@gnu.org> <87pm32htc5.fsf@localhost> <83il8uas6i.fsf@gnu.org> <83fs3yarw9.fsf@gnu.org> <87msy5gfk8.fsf@localhost> <83jzt99co6.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="4430"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: yantar92@posteo.net, jschmidt4gnu@vodafonemail.de, philipk@posteo.net, luangruo@yahoo.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 02 14:11:17 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qcPTB-0000yA-O8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2023 14:11:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qcPSE-0003AV-RJ; Sat, 02 Sep 2023 08:10:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qcPSC-0003A0-IU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Sep 2023 08:10:17 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qcPSA-0000Mv-OD; Sat, 02 Sep 2023 08:10:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=csiIRsZBDnF3KFYle1OAxRX5nVHPfnHzWkU67DKL1fQ=; b=B4BgOwC265kD z1TAkF0nANwf3MQlN6zWgICME+grvYG4EmrpA4XwgQYJIlnASDMcReuwK4+5Ev/fhdZZsYeeOFOsg e0Sjk+LOd+WJU/JLhdT7FLQyEKqUEj1VjH1V6NF9fAmyx+/4pFaBMskCte4tuvAD2FXgENKecw5oU Jd5DUf/5FpNdPAgZax0dpWv6D5UPa9RrWAVPh7T/JIvO3gzgnbh9xbohcqapjdEhJSnbk+XnBjz6q Cc9PjtovzDj6YbwiOAN0SzB/9OlHnviSsE38SzyPf+LFUHXrMSb+nqfCJuxH87G585LpwK+fhM1ya HXMs7TG7q1nT52w8BAubRA==; In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sat, 2 Sep 2023 14:41:42 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309885 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2023 14:41:42 +0300 > Cc: jschmidt4gnu@vodafonemail.de, philipk@posteo.net, luangruo@yahoo.com, > stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > > On 02/09/2023 11:55, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> > >> Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> > >>> And then, of course, I regularly purge my inbox, at which point > >>> looking up previous emails becomes even harder. > >> That sounds like your MUA deficiency. Looking up previous emails is > >> critical, even when the established email etiquette is to quote previous > >> messages. Sometimes, too much context is lost in the quote. > > ?? You mean I must keep_all_ the emails I receive forever? > > > > What I do is file (a.k.a. "archive") the emails I want to keep, for > > whatever reasons, and delete all the rest. How is that a > > "deficiency", let alone one of my MUA? My MUA simply does what I tell > > it to do. > > Both Debbugs and other newer bug trackers keep the history of older > comments in their database. > > So it's not really an issue of someone being forced to keep email > archives forever: we can read the older threads on the web too. Yes, of course. I also do that. I only said that it is less convenient than having the context right there, in the message to which I'm replying, that's all. And that people who participate in discussions via a Web browser frequently omit the context since it's "right there", and they don't think about someone who receives the discussion via email. > The problem you are discussing it the difference between flat and > threaded email conversations' display. No, the problem _I_ commented on was the importance of having the context in the message to which I'm replying, in the form of quoted excerpts from previous messages. If I'm required to look it up in previous messages, it is possible, but less convenient, since I don't know in which message to look for it, and thus need to look back one message at a time until I find out.