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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Chong Yidong'" <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
Cc: 3022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Subject: bug#3022: 23.0.92; triangle images in Customize buffers are just plain bad
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:09:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83CEEFF8DC7149C1A89D91B6DD5BF312@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877hub38qf.fsf@stupidchicken.com>

> > While the idea behind the triangles (arrows) in Customize is good
> > (actually, I believe it was I who suggested it), the 
> > current effect is quite bad.
> >
> > If the value is shown, then the triangle points downward. Typically,
> > that symbol means that clicking it will display something additional
> > below the symbol. Instead, the value disappears.
> >
> > If the value is not shown, the the symbol is a right-pointing
> > triangle. That's OK in this case, since it suggests that clicking it
> > will display something to the right, and the value is to the right.
> >
> > However, for the symbol that replaces `More', a right-pointing
> > triangle is inappropriate, since the text is not displayed to its
> > right, but below it.
> 
> This is a very standard user interface idiom, known as "disclosure
> triangles".

Calling it by name and "very standard" doesn't improve anything. It was I who
suggested the idea in the first place. The idea is fine, as I said already.

"The current _effect_ is bad." That's the point: it is simply not done right.
The result is confusion and easily missing information. See above for details.

Doors on buildings (known as "doors") are a very standard architecture idiom.
But some doors are poorly designed.






  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-31 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-31 15:04 bug#3022: 23.0.92; triangle images in Customize buffers are just plain bad Chong Yidong
2009-10-31 16:09 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2009-11-06  1:50   ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-06  2:53     ` Lennart Borgman
2012-02-22  2:28     ` Glenn Morris
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-04-16 20:37 Drew Adams

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