From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Pavlo Martynenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X development Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:40:01 +0300 Message-ID: <83A41E83-79C8-4490-966B-CD224041E840@gmail.com> References: <87r4s68rr4.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1342863622 15588 80.91.229.3 (21 Jul 2012 09:40:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 09:40:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ted Zlatanov To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 21 11:40:21 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SsWAc-0005rQ-MR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 11:40:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49536 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SsWAb-0005cH-Tn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 05:40:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38011) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SsWAZ-0005ac-Mn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 05:40:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SsWAX-0005NU-Fs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 05:40:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:53774) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SsWAX-0005N7-8b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 05:40:13 -0400 Original-Received: by bkcjc3 with SMTP id jc3so3970332bkc.0 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 02:40:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=BrTPzjdUiMRrmonCcyEDHkx5Uq6qSlxOo4bZ5S9cWnc=; b=W2d+OJhizmnJ/L1/ohtLceCbHFv8BaHsiBX6qNvtK1gsn4FPiidT+YVSTXH4BCXGhL pyOMXqClRw/5g2BElJMOMI7sVZ5qffkTyvQyYmX3k2sooi8jP7gxLtq7pDVPGjzelEke u0I8uPt3mPAJE+qn+vutm18VTNW0Wd2MTLEz00tnhJs4mLsu0eXbSnvGq3DBv03bWaOw +DWkRsOZmYv6F9+OBobM0YOuhpEAZZYHGZuE62cFeBeisbr6NakUScPd4vFiD72Td6sO KwQGlFdrqCIyxzPl3qsK7l4UoO1Gs0Eu7Gywl06KDbfCtPD3SunXxgPg/U6k76hWhgqS gFLw== Original-Received: by 10.204.155.66 with SMTP id r2mr4471570bkw.131.1342863610922; Sat, 21 Jul 2012 02:40:10 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.0.1.51] (77-52-78-129.dialup.umc.net.ua. [77.52.78.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t23sm3838766bks.4.2012.07.21.02.40.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 21 Jul 2012 02:40:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87r4s68rr4.fsf@lifelogs.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.214.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151791 Archived-At: I can repeat it again. NS port is ugly, and has problems with C-g, font rendering, modifier = keys, multiprocessing, networking. Some times NS port stops respond on network requests and C-g does not = help. See the difference on https://vimeo.com/46028049. (look and feel only) And what systems do you use with tramp? I have problem with FreeBSD. After opening file on remote freebsd host at the end of the file I see. $ _echo=08 =08=08 =08=08 =08=08 =08=08 =08stty icanon erase ^H cols = 32767_echo=08 =08=08 =08=08 =08=08 =08=08 =08 #$=20 Tramp versions from 2.2.3 up to 2.2.6-pre. On 20 Jul 2012, at 16:51, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:07:43 -0700 chad wrote:=20 >=20 > c> I use the ns port on macosx 10.7.4 every day, compiled from bazaar > c> every few days, and have never seen any of these problems. I've = been > c> doing this for years, with the current bzr head and OS release, = without > c> trouble. >=20 > Same here, with heavy Gnus and Tramp usage. I haven't seen it crash = in > a while (last time was due to a misplaced GnuTLS library). >=20 > Ted >=20 >=20 Pavlo