From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
Cc: xah@xahlee.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!)
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:57:20 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <838whslsrz.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e01d8a50908091154s75a6b701sc954be40a1952eb9@mail.gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:54:11 +0200
> From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
> Cc: xah@xahlee.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Eli Zaretskii<eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> >> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:21:46 +0200
> >> From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
> >> Cc: xah@xahlee.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> >>
> >> > I'm saying that subgroups called "advanced" are bad.
> >>
> >> You said
> >>
> >> In a good UI, each feature should be put under a group whose name
> >> gives a hint that the feature could be reasonably looked up in that
> >> group. Having group names such as "Advanced" or "More options", that
> >> have no mnemonic value, is abusing the menus, which are supposed to
> >> make the job of finding a feature _easier_, not harder.
> >
> > Yes, and that goes for subgroups as well.
>
>
> And the reason?
But you just quoted me explaining that, see above!
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Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-05 3:22 bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23! xah lee
2009-08-06 2:15 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-08 16:11 ` Xah Lee
2009-08-09 3:36 ` Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!) Stefan Monnier
2009-08-09 3:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 5:13 ` Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs Stefan Monnier
2009-08-09 17:20 ` Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!) Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 17:56 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 18:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:10 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 18:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:54 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2009-08-09 18:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 19:07 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 20:36 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 23:00 ` Fiddling with the menus Jason Rumney
2009-08-09 23:14 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 23:46 ` Jason Rumney
2009-08-10 1:51 ` Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!) Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-10 3:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-10 3:26 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 2:27 ` Fiddling with the menus Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10 2:32 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 5:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-09 9:51 ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-09 17:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:06 ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-09 18:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:24 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 18:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:59 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 22:54 ` Jason Rumney
2009-08-10 1:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-09 17:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 23:14 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-10 2:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10 3:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-11 5:06 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-11 13:03 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 12:37 ` Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!) Florian Beck
2009-08-09 17:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 17:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:05 ` Fiddling with the menus Richard Riley
2009-08-09 18:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-10 2:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10 3:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 23:09 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-09 23:29 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 0:10 ` Drew Adams
2009-08-10 2:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-09 20:29 ` bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23! Richard Stallman
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-08-10 2:34 Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!) Xah Lee
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