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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: log format for vc-bzr
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:20:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <838wc8bxft.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <873a2gkh0n.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>

> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
> Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es>,
>     emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 19:50:00 +0900
> 
> Eli Zaretskii writes:
> 
>  >     --forget-merges 
>  >       Remove pending merge marker, without changing any files.
>  > 
>  > What is a ``pending merge marker''?
> 
> A "pending merge" is a merge that you have started with "bzr merge"
> (or perhaps a "bzr pull" that resulted in a conflict) but not yet
> finished with "bzr commit".

Terrific!  So I just did a merge, but it is still considered
``pending''?  Who could have thought of a more confusing semantics??
(Please don't take this as aimed at you, Stephen; I will shortly say
the same on the Bazaar list.)

>  > And how removing it resolves the problem at hand?
> 
> By removing the pointer to the parents in the microbranch along with
> the merge marker, the history (metadata) recorded in the microbranch
> becomes inaccessible (in Lisp terms, garbage).

What is a microbranch?

> The "real" history (files changed by the merge operation) is not
> touched, and so the content changes, but not the historical
> metadata, is recorded in the upcoming commit.

So it's a way to pretend that a series of changes on a branch is a
single change that brings you to the last revision on that branch, is
that right?

If so, then I think it's not what I thought it would do.  This
sub-thread started from ttn's comment that "Unrestrained publishing of
personal junk is bad manners."  But ``personal junk'' can only be in
the commit messages, much less in the code.  (It could, of course,
happen that I somehow commit a version with lots of debug printouts or
some such, but how is that ``personal junk''?)  "revert --forget-merges"
forgets the whole commit, not just its commit message, so it seems to
throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Or am I missing something?

Anyway, thanks for the explanations.

>  > And if this is the magic wand to leave personal commit comments out
>  > of the public repository, then shouldn't we add this to the
>  > recommended workflow on the wiki?
> 
> It's a wiki ....

Yes, but it states a policy, so I won't want to make such changes
unless they are agreed to.




  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-08 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-08 17:47 log format for vc-bzr Dan Nicolaescu
2009-12-08 19:19 ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-08 19:47   ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-08 20:15     ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-08 21:10       ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-08 22:03         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-12-08 22:36           ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-09  0:27           ` Jason Earl
2009-12-09  8:55             ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-09  9:55               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-12-09 14:41                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-09 20:29               ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-09 21:49                 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-09 22:34                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-12-09 23:15                     ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-10  2:03                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-12-10  9:12                         ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-10 12:28                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-07 21:23                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-07 21:47                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-08  0:40                         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-08  9:00                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 10:09                           ` reversion revulsion [was: log format for vc-bzr] Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-08 10:53                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-08 13:41                               ` reversion revulsion Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-08 14:32                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-08 14:47                                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-08 11:21                             ` reversion revulsion [was: log format for vc-bzr] Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-08 12:36                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 13:27                                 ` reversion revulsion Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-08 16:54                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 17:57                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-08 13:29                                 ` reversion revulsion [was: log format for vc-bzr] Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-08 13:32                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-08 10:28                           ` log format for vc-bzr Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-08 12:01                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 12:24                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-08 12:52                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 13:22                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-08 13:50                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-01-08 14:28                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-08 14:39                                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-08 17:56                             ` bzr Q&A [was Re: log format for vc-bzr] Glenn Morris
2010-01-09 10:35                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-09 17:58                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-08 10:50                           ` log format for vc-bzr Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-08 12:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2010-01-08 12:29                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-08 13:39                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-09 10:51                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 13:48                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-08 16:57                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 17:45                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-08 19:35                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 19:41                                       ` Miles Bader
2010-01-08 21:22                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 20:46                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-08 21:29                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 21:51                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-08 22:24                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-08 23:05                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-09  8:50                                                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-09  9:36                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2010-01-09 13:35                                                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-01-09  3:45                                             ` Miles Bader
2010-01-08 11:54                           ` Daniel Clemente
2010-01-08 16:45                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-09  3:18                               ` Daniel Clemente
2010-01-09  9:37                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-12-09  1:32   ` Stefan Monnier

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