From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bash scripts in black and white Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 09:33:07 +0300 Message-ID: <838w7lfzdo.fsf@gnu.org> References: <4BEBC372.5010402@alice.it> <4BEDBF5C.1040306@alice.it> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1273905241 28164 80.91.229.12 (15 May 2010 06:34:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 06:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Angelo Graziosi Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 15 08:34:00 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ODAwf-0004Gd-24 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 May 2010 08:33:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37991 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ODAwd-0007lS-0t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 15 May 2010 02:33:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=40290 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ODAw3-0007kr-6W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 May 2010 02:33:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ODAw1-0006hw-Nr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 May 2010 02:33:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:64172) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ODAw1-0006hX-Gu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 May 2010 02:33:17 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L2G007007DXMB00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 May 2010 09:33:15 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.206.56]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L2G004ZI7J7U780@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 15 May 2010 09:33:08 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <4BEDBF5C.1040306@alice.it> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:124788 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 23:23:40 +0200 > From: Angelo Graziosi > Cc: Emacs > > PS. Sometime one gets the idea that Emacs's developers do not test > deeply (for example, with at least a clean bootstrap) their changes... > This would explain why the bugs tracker is at #6193 :-) I won't recommend drawing any conclusions from just the number of the last filed bug. Especially since the Emacs bug database is shared with other projects (e.g., Coreutils). As another data point, the GNU Make's bug number approaches 30,000... More to the point: Emacs maintainers do test as deeply as practically possible for each one of them. A bootstrap is a lengthy procedure for someone who has maybe an hour a day to work on Emacs. We are grateful to all those who do have resources to bootstrap and test on other systems, and report results here.