From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Composing Hebrew diacriticals Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 10:29:18 +0300 Message-ID: <838w7hbrch.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83mxwlw2c0.fsf@gnu.org> <83pr12pfw6.fsf@gnu.org> <83fx1xowfj.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1274168271 18307 80.91.229.12 (18 May 2010 07:37:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 07:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: yair.f.lists@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 18 09:37:50 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OEHN8-0001aq-0B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 May 2010 09:37:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41134 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OEHN6-0006h5-UC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 May 2010 03:37:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=37524 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OEHKD-0000fn-QL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2010 03:37:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OEHGf-0008SI-Af for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2010 03:34:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]:53914) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OEHGd-0008Rm-Ds for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2010 03:31:07 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L2L00D00U057400@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 May 2010 10:29:14 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.197.161]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L2L00B9WU4PCH60@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Tue, 18 May 2010 10:29:14 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:124879 Archived-At: > From: Kenichi Handa > Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 13:35:42 +0900 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > >>> 3. Letter Yod (U+5D9) composed with Hiriq (U+5B4) is composed into > >>> presentation form (U+FB1D). This should only happen with specific > >>> control (Either CGJ or ZWJ I'll check). > > > > > > I tried to show that sequence with gedit and and firefox. > > > Both show it with U+FB1D. > > > Kate show this as well, Firefox doesn't. Nevertheless it's still a bug. > > Then what is the correct rendering of the sequence "\u05D9\u05B4"? > Applying only `mark' feature? With dejavu sans font, U+FB1D > has lower dot above baseline, but just applying `mark' > feature results in displaying dot below baseline. > > See the attached image. The left one is the composition > with `ccmp' GSUB feature (i.e. into U+FB1D) for the sequence > "\u05D9\u200D\u05B4", and the right one is the composition > with `mark' GPOS feature for the sequence "\u05D9\u05B4". > Is this the correct rendering? IMHO, U+FB1D looks quite ugly with this font, but I guess that's not really the issue here. Otherwise, looks good to me, although I'm far from being an expert on Hebrew typesetting.