From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 06:02:43 +0300 Message-ID: <838w6jk52k.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87d3w2ncqs.fsf_-_@lola.goethe.zz> <87iq5py7xk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <871vcc4xhf.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83ljakliqt.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1276398181 27670 80.91.229.12 (13 Jun 2010 03:03:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 03:03:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 13 05:02:59 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONdTJ-0005QO-UW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 05:02:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46866 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ONdTI-00008y-Qf for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 23:02:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60143 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ONdTC-00008q-3K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 23:02:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONdTA-0007WI-HX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 23:02:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:50522) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ONdTA-0007WD-Aw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2010 23:02:44 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0L3X00I00N06NP00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 06:02:42 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.88.125]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0L3X00E5PN4H1AA0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sun, 13 Jun 2010 06:02:42 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:125869 Archived-At: > From: Kenichi Handa > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 07:27:33 +0900 > > > Paragraph direction determines whether the text starts at the left > > window margin or at the right margin. Text direction determines > > the direction in which text is read. > > How about using the word "orientation" for "paragraph > direction" to avoid confusion? "Paragraph direction" is the term used by UAX#9. I'm trying to use terminology that is accepted there, so people who know about this or want to read the description of the Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm would not be confused. > many people misunderstood that even latin letters are written from > right to left in a paragraph (or a buffer) of "r2l direction". ??? Latin text is always displayed left to right, independent of the paragraph direction. More generally, text direction is independent of the paragraph direction.