From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: A clarification on the Emacs Tutorial Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:53:03 +0300 Message-ID: <838vrqdu5s.fsf@gnu.org> References: <82fwlyp5ll.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1311360795 8183 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2011 18:53:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:53:15 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 22 20:53:12 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QkKqQ-0000o6-UL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:53:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50566 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QkKqQ-0002Ss-Hc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:53:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:41721) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QkKqL-0002Sc-Rk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QkKqK-0004uN-T1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:53:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:44769) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QkKqK-0004uJ-Eg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:53:00 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LOR00L000CCR500@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:52:58 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.133.66]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LOR00LW90G9P550@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:52:58 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <82fwlyp5ll.fsf@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:81734 Archived-At: > From: Sivaram Neelakantan > Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:20:30 +0530 > > So, I had some free time and was going through the tutorial and came > to this part > > Note that a single C-k kills the contents of the line, and a second > C-k kills the line itself, and makes all the other lines move up. C-k > treats a numeric argument specially: it kills that many lines AND > their contents. This is not mere repetition. C-u 2 C-k kills two > lines and their newlines; typing C-k twice would not do that. > > Right, I *know* this,OK? I understand this perfectly but could you > tell me what's that sentence "This is not mere repetition" for? I > can't see what that sentence is trying to say in context. If I remove > that sentence it makes perfect sense but maddeningly I can't figure > what that sentence is trying to convey. That sentence is trying to convey that "C-u 2 C-k" is not the same as "C-k C-k". The "normal" effect of "C-u 2" before a command is to perform that command twice; the text is trying to explain that in this case, "C-u 2" is not just repetition of "C-k" 2 times.