From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Google Summer of Code - some ideas Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 05:38:19 +0300 Message-ID: <838v4ax97o.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83d2tmxvz5.fsf@gnu.org> <87bo961fu6.fsf@moo.wxcvbn.org> <83a9oqxq96.fsf@gnu.org> <877gju1era.fsf@moo.wxcvbn.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1366684717 17091 80.91.229.3 (23 Apr 2013 02:38:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 02:38:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: aurelien.aptel+emacs@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: jca+emacs@wxcvbn.org (=?utf-8?Q?J=C3=A9r=C3=A9mie_Courr=C3=A8ges-Angla?= =?utf-8?Q?s?=) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 23 04:38:41 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UUT7u-0007X9-3N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 04:38:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53831 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UUT7t-0006v8-Ny for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:38:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36202) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UUT7p-0006uQ-1n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:38:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UUT7m-0004Rw-Kn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:38:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:63158) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UUT7m-0004RV-CZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:38:30 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MLO00M00SL0U700@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 05:38:22 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MLO00ML2SNYL180@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 05:38:22 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <877gju1era.fsf@moo.wxcvbn.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:159139 Archived-At: > From: jca+emacs@wxcvbn.org (J=C3=A9r=C3=A9mie Courr=C3=A8ges-Anglas= ) > Cc: aurelien.aptel+emacs@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:39:37 +0200 >=20 > > Emacs already has a solution for all this, in the MS-Windows buil= d > > (which already loads these libraries dynamically). So what's nee= ded > > is to use the same arrangement on other platforms, which currentl= y > > link statically against these libraries. >=20 > I think you meant "link dynamically", not "statically". No, I meant statically. > I trust you that there must have good reasons to do this on "window= s", > but I fail to see the bonus on Unix-like distros out there that hav= e > proper package / library / dependancies management. Then what is this thread all about? Stefan said: > > - Modules & FFI > > I'm interested in adding a way to load compiled modules dynamical= ly > > and possibly add a FFI. >=20 > That would be great. >=20 > > I say possibly because the more I look into into the more I reali= ze > > it's not really helpful for complex stuff and simple stuff are ea= sy to > > do with a module. >=20 > Things like libxml2 and libgnutls should use such a mechanism inste= ad of > the one they use currently. If all of this is already solved, what else do we need that would loa= d libxml2 and libgnutls dynamically?