From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Describing local-map/keymap in overlays/text properties Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 19:25:40 +0300 Message-ID: <838v1jy7sr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87d2qxjs7n.fsf@igel.home> <87y59jzp8l.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83ehbby9mv.fsf@gnu.org> <87mwpzy94k.fsf@building.gnus.org> <83bo6fy8uq.fsf@gnu.org> <87fvvrwtsy.fsf@building.gnus.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1373129270 15116 80.91.229.3 (6 Jul 2013 16:47:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 16:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: schwab@linux-m68k.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 06 18:47:50 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UvVeG-0006ep-Rw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 18:47:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52265 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvVeG-0002Cb-C6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 12:47:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34916) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvVeD-0002BR-Jj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 12:47:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvVeA-0005Qn-DS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 12:47:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:62504) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvVJ5-0006d2-Aw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 12:25:55 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MPI00B00W4EK200@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 19:25:42 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MPI00BLMWAT97D0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sat, 06 Jul 2013 19:25:42 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87fvvrwtsy.fsf@building.gnus.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:161672 Archived-At: > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: schwab@linux-m68k.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2013 18:13:17 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Then how is that different from "C-u C-x ="? > > It's different in that people hit `C-h b' to learn what keystrokes are > available to them. `C-u C-x =' is a relatively obscure command, and > having to use both commands for doing something as basic as this is > pretty nonsensical. Pushing the normal output of "C-h b" further down the buffer doesn't make sense, either. How about a new "C-h" command, or perhaps an argument to "C-h b" that would trigger this new display?