From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: mouse-autoselect-window-select Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 21:00:22 +0300 Message-ID: <838v04p2yx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83wqnonvra.fsf@gnu.org> <520BA3FD.6030503@gmx.at> <83vc38nu03.fsf@gnu.org> <520BB93C.2070303@gmx.at> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1376503222 17998 80.91.229.3 (14 Aug 2013 18:00:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 18:00:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 14 20:00:24 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V9fMt-0000FT-Ep for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:00:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46929 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V9fMt-0004RU-2x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 14:00:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58850) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V9fMk-0004MI-Ji for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 14:00:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V9fMf-000835-Cf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 14:00:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:36361) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V9fMf-00081N-5l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 14:00:09 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MRJ00L008F7CF00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:59:54 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MRJ00L5N8NT9G60@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 20:59:53 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <520BB93C.2070303@gmx.at> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.175 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:162735 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:07:08 +0200 > From: martin rudalics > CC: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > You could exclude the case of fringes-outside-margins. No need to > > wait for a complaint to DTRT. > > What is TRT? According to what you say here the following text from the > Elisp manual which informally mentions the "text area" of a window > > The "body height" of a window is the height of its text area, which > does not include the mode or header line. Similarly, the "body width" > is the width of the text area, which does not include the scroll bar, > fringes, or margins. > > is incorrect. That's "text area" overloaded for you. From the technical POV of the display engine, text area indeed does not include the display margins. But from the user's POV, I think it surely does, because it displays the same objects as the text area does: text and images, and that display is created the same way as you'd display an overlay or display string in the "text area".