From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15404: make_timespec undefined Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:59:04 +0300 Message-ID: <838uyunpl3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <5omwnb5cjn.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1379516429 26312 80.91.229.3 (18 Sep 2013 15:00:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 15:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15404@debbugs.gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 18 17:00:32 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VMJF1-0002rm-6d for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:00:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47468 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VMJF0-0000J8-S1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:00:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37451) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VMJEh-0008QR-2G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:00:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VMJEb-0002nW-6a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:00:10 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:38492) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VMJEa-0002m8-VP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:00:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VMJEa-0005LP-1a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:00:04 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 15:00:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15404 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15404-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15404.137951635420454 (code B ref 15404); Wed, 18 Sep 2013 15:00:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15404) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Sep 2013 14:59:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46784 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VMJDl-0005Jo-5t for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 10:59:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:47493) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VMJDi-0005JW-Hm for 15404@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 10:59:11 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0MTB00D00TFLOE00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 15404@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:59:03 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0MTB00DWDTMFCIA0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:59:03 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:78514 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 09:38:35 -0400 > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: 15404@debbugs.gnu.org > > Alas, bootstrapping tends to cause me a lot of trouble. For instance, > it deletes the old version of Emacs, so if anything goes wrong, > I am basically shafted until I get it fixed. One way of avoiding such a total loss is to have 2 separate bzr branches, both bound to the main one on Savannah. Assuming you already have one such branch, here's a way of creating another one, starting from the 1st branch's top-level directory: $ cd .. $ bzr branch --bind bzr+ssh://rms@bzr.savannah.gnu.org/emacs/trunk ./trunk2 When bzr is done (it should be pretty quick, assuming you have a shared repo in the parent directory of your current emacs trunk), bootstrap the new branch in trunk2, and then you can use that as a spare branch. E.g., you could always bootstrap trunk2, so that when the "normal" build in the other branch fails, you could try in trunk2, and if that works, you know you can bootstrap in the other branch without fear. Since both branches are bound to the mainline, you can commit from any of them.