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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Trunk still not open
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 18:43:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <838us8bwti.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3k3bs26zq.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org>

> From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 16:13:29 +0100
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> Being able to add functionality and get feedback on it fast is very
> valuable.  Writing in-depth documentation for stuff that will likely
> change is wasted time.

Deferring documentation for later is a sure recipe to get back where
we are now.  For starters, who will remember to get back to writing
docs afterwards (or want to, for that matter)?  Who will manage the
queue, and how?  etc/NEWS again?  We know where that leads.

> The other thing is that I kinda feel that we're over-documenting some
> things.  I think things should just work without the user having to read
> documentation at all.  And Emacs has some methods for discoverability
> (like 'C-h m') that work quite well if you're looking for what commands
> are available.

I think we already document only what needs to be, see the "---"
markers in NEWS.

> Not all modes need an entry in the Emacs and Lispref manuals.

Neither are they.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-17 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-27  5:00 Trunk still not open Stefan Monnier
2014-03-13 20:55 ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-14  7:58   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-14  9:29     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-14  9:35       ` David Kastrup
2014-03-14  9:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-14 10:02           ` David Kastrup
2014-03-14 10:23             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-14 10:40               ` David Kastrup
2014-03-14 11:02                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-14  9:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-14  9:55       ` Bastien
2014-03-14 15:16         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-14 11:42       ` Eric S. Raymond
2014-03-15  9:13         ` Jambunathan K
2014-03-14 12:34       ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-14 13:38         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-03-14 19:35           ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-18 20:01             ` joakim
2014-03-19  6:29               ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-19 16:43             ` Stefan
2014-03-14 14:34         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-14 14:57           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-14 15:29             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-15  6:22               ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-15  9:02                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-16  0:26                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-16  3:49                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-14 15:39             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-15  6:30               ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-17  4:33                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-14 19:31         ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-14 20:08           ` Daniel Colascione
2014-03-16  1:00             ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-16  2:30               ` Daniel Colascione
2014-03-15  1:55           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-15  2:09             ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-15  8:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-15 10:52                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-03-15 11:18                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-15 11:28                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-03-16  1:08                   ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-16  2:09                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-03-16 10:02                       ` martin rudalics
2014-03-17 16:26                       ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-17 17:03                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-03-17 17:25                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-17 17:31                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-03-18 15:54                           ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-18 17:07                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-03-18 17:21                               ` David Kastrup
2014-03-18 17:27                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-03-19  4:25                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-17  4:43                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-17 12:38                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-03-17 14:31                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-18  6:00                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-18  7:51                         ` David Kastrup
2014-03-18 12:10                           ` John Yates
2014-03-18 12:20                             ` David Kastrup
2014-03-18 12:52                               ` John Yates
2014-03-18 13:01                                 ` David Kastrup
2014-03-18 10:56                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-03-18 16:13                       ` Jambunathan K
2014-03-18 16:16                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-03-18 17:25                           ` Jambunathan K
2014-03-18 17:30                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-03-18 17:51                               ` Jambunathan K
2014-03-16  0:39                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-16  3:52                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-16  5:25                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-16 16:10                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-16 16:36                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-16 18:20                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-15 10:02               ` Jambunathan K
2014-03-15 10:19                 ` David Kastrup
2014-03-15 11:01                   ` Jambunathan K
2014-03-15 11:10                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-17 14:32             ` Stefan
2014-03-17 15:13               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-03-17 16:13                 ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-17 16:43                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2014-03-17 16:13               ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-17 16:52                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-17 16:33               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-15  3:22           ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-15  7:10             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2014-03-15  9:02               ` David Kastrup
2014-03-15  8:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-16  0:32               ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-16  1:27                 ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-16  5:31                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-03-16 11:26                 ` Nicolas Richard
2014-03-16  3:57               ` Jambunathan K
2014-03-16 16:17                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-16 19:17                   ` Jambunathan K
2014-03-16 20:10                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-17  4:56                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-19  7:57                         ` Jambunathan K
2014-03-19 16:06                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-03-19 23:21                             ` Jambunathan K
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-03-17 14:47 Barry OReilly
2014-03-18 17:55 ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-03-18 19:05   ` Jambunathan K
2014-03-18 19:24     ` Juanma Barranquero
2014-03-18 19:29       ` Jambunathan K
2014-03-18 19:47     ` David Kastrup
2014-03-18 19:57       ` David Kastrup
2014-03-19 15:17       ` Jambunathan K
2014-03-19  6:20         ` David Kastrup
2014-03-19  7:24           ` Jambunathan K
2014-03-19 15:22       ` Jambunathan K
2014-03-19 14:54 Alexander Poslavsky
2014-03-19 15:18 ` Jambunathan K
2014-03-19 15:21   ` Alexander Poslavsky
2014-03-19 15:51     ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-19 16:23       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-03-19 20:38       ` Jambunathan K
2014-03-19 15:57     ` Bastien
2014-03-19 15:59       ` Bastien
2014-03-19 16:13         ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-19 17:15       ` Nicolas Richard
2014-03-19 23:38         ` Bastien
2014-03-19 18:45     ` Stefan
2014-03-19 20:01       ` Glenn Morris
2014-03-20  1:22         ` Stefan
2014-03-19 21:21       ` Paul Eggert
2014-03-20  1:24         ` Stefan

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