From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Learning "my emacs" from the start Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 17:13:12 +0300 Message-ID: <838ur0f5s7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3defe928-5d2e-4d3b-bc26-f595f275f840@googlegroups.com> <83lhv0fmrk.fsf@gnu.org> <87mwfg5lop.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <83eh0sfeiy.fsf@gnu.org> <87d2gc5bua.fsf@zigzag.favinet> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1398003237 9363 80.91.229.3 (20 Apr 2014 14:13:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 14:13:57 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 20 16:13:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WbsVB-0002u3-Pc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 16:13:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45727 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WbsVB-0002zC-BK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 10:13:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56505) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WbsUu-0002yo-8V for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 10:13:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WbsUo-0007Iv-C3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 10:13:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]:39104) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WbsUo-0007Ip-3T for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 10:13:26 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0N4C00H001U01Y00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 17:13:24 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0N4C00GXD26CX130@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Apr 2014 17:13:24 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87d2gc5bua.fsf@zigzag.favinet> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 X-Received-From: 80.179.55.166 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97263 Archived-At: > From: Thien-Thi Nguyen > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 16:12:29 +0200 > > For some (maybe most) people, making the effort to understand what makes > a goal impractical in the eyes of the experienced is the most important > practice to undertake. I could explain that, if needed. It's not hard to understand. > If OP can vaunt the small hurdles along the way, who knows, maybe the > big ones we (think we) see will prove easily surmountable after all > (with a SMOP :-D). This is how the "old" can learn from the "young". There's nothing the "old" can learn from the "young" (for some values of "old" and "young"). Wisdom flows in the other direction.