From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 00:46:57 +0200 Message-ID: <838uil3eam.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <87mw72lyzs.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <20141205190925.GA5067@thyrsus.com> <83h9x93leo.fsf@gnu.org> <20141205205320.GA7237@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417819624 23106 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2014 22:47:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 22:47:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cwebber@dustycloud.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 23:46:56 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx1eJ-0000T7-5f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 23:46:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52769 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx1eI-0003B2-Pe for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 17:46:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39872) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx1eA-000365-34 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 17:46:50 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx1e5-00048k-3v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 17:46:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout28.012.net.il ([80.179.55.184]:38648) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xx1e4-00048N-Sp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2014 17:46:41 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.mtaout28.012.net.il by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NG400H00QNODA00@mtaout28.012.net.il> for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 00:44:15 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by mtaout28.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NG400HZVSHRS430@mtaout28.012.net.il>; Sat, 06 Dec 2014 00:44:15 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <20141205205320.GA7237@thyrsus.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 80.179.55.184 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179056 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 15:53:20 -0500 > From: "Eric S. Raymond" > Cc: cwebber@dustycloud.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii : > > > Because Texinfo is a barrier in itself, full of ceremony and heavyweight > > > markup. > > > > Nonsense. > > You have Texinfo markup in your fingertips. So do I. The difference > is, I can perform the cognitive distancing act required to see how it > looks to newbies. Apparently you can't. Apparently, there are no technical arguments left in your arsenal (if there were any to begin with), so you are down to ad hominem. Shame on you! > > > The state of the art has moved well past it - modern formats like > > > asciidoc (or perhaps even org - others may be right about that) are > > > both lighter and more powerful. > > > > How about showing those advantages, instead of throwing > > unsubstantiated FAD? > > Sure. Go look at the asciidoc masters in the Linux or git source trees. How typical. See above.