From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20011: etc/PROBLEMS: updates, wording, typos Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 00:23:21 +0300 Message-ID: <838ue7oaeu.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871tl315el.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <83ioeeo6rc.fsf@gnu.org> <87sidize1t.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <83egp2o24v.fsf@gnu.org> <87fv8ftzlo.fsf@violet.siamics.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428182661 3888 80.91.229.3 (4 Apr 2015 21:24:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2015 21:24:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20011@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ivan Shmakov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 04 23:24:10 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YeVY2-0004oX-2k for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 23:24:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34380 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YeVY1-0001E5-8w for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 17:24:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58864) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YeVXx-0001E0-Ud for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 17:24:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YeVXu-0005be-Nf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 17:24:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:55175) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YeVXu-0005bZ-Kd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 17:24:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YeVXu-00031b-DO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 17:24:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 21:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20011 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 20011-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20011.142818260811548 (code B ref 20011); Sat, 04 Apr 2015 21:24:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20011) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Apr 2015 21:23:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44951 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YeVXL-00030A-Qj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 17:23:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]:51968) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YeVXK-0002zp-8z for 20011@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 17:23:26 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0NMA00K00W1IMS00@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 20011@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Apr 2015 00:23:20 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.69.4.28]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0NMA00KQUWQVIR70@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sun, 05 Apr 2015 00:23:20 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87fv8ftzlo.fsf@violet.siamics.net> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:101211 Archived-At: > From: Ivan Shmakov > Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2015 20:20:19 +0000 > > >>> There's nothing wrong with using "that" in these contexts, > > >> AIUI, there’s nothing wrong with using “which” there, either. > > > Indeed, there isn't. But making such changes in a single document on > > top of that, leaving all the other uses intact, hardly makes sense. > > It could make sense if we agreed not to use "that" in these cases, > > and then changed that all over and wrote somewhere in the docs that > > this is our style. But not in a single file. > > I’ve mostly dropped these changes, or (in three cases) reworded > to avoid either. > > >>> replaces a recipe with an entirely different one. Why not keep > >>> both? > > >> The former recipe seems to predate the introduction of > >> visible-cursor. I see no reason to keep it now that there’s an easy > >> way to solve the issue without having to modify terminfo or restart > >> Emacs, etc. I presume that the more experienced users will be able > >> to gather all what necessary for a terminfo-based solution from the > >> “use software cursor” recipe just above the one at hand. > > > I don't know enough about this to judge, so I will defer to others. > > (I generally prefer to keep existing knowledge intact, even if it's > > old, as long as it's correct; but that's me.) > > Done. > > Please consider the revised patch MIMEd. Looks good to me, thanks.