From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23783: Minor feature fixes and enhancements [Was: bug#23783: Emacs 25: Changing font-lock-maximum-decoration doesn't work.] Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 05:34:51 +0300 Message-ID: <838ty1aotw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <20160617102500.GA3316@acm.fritz.box> <83ziqiakhx.fsf@gnu.org> <20160618171903.GB5796@acm.fritz.box> <83pore9z4z.fsf@gnu.org> <20160618200305.GE5796@acm.fritz.box> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1466303665 20178 80.91.229.3 (19 Jun 2016 02:34:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 02:34:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23783@debbugs.gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 19 04:34:14 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bESYw-0001sJ-Fb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jun 2016 04:34:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37189 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bESYv-0004pS-NR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 22:34:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43141) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bESYk-0004pJ-N6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 22:34:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bESYj-0008Lp-Q4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 22:34:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:33190) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bESYj-0008Ll-NK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 22:34:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bESYj-0007iz-I5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 22:34:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 02:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23783 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23783-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23783.146630363629683 (code B ref 23783); Sun, 19 Jun 2016 02:34:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23783) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jun 2016 02:33:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45527 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bESYe-0007ih-KG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 22:33:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52121) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bESYc-0007iU-Lz for 23783@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 22:33:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bESYU-0008K7-Co for 23783@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 22:33:49 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44593) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bESYU-0008K0-AE; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 22:33:46 -0400 Original-Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2230 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bESYT-0000vo-GT; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 22:33:45 -0400 In-reply-to: <20160618200305.GE5796@acm.fritz.box> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Sat, 18 Jun 2016 20:03:05 +0000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:119763 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 20:03:05 +0000 > Cc: 23783@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Alan Mackenzie > > > In general, I find that lately we make too frequently the mistake of > > messing with low-level infrastructure for some marginal improvement, > > and then have to invest/waste lots of time and releases to deal with > > the fallout of unintended consequences, broken use cases, etc. I > > intend to object to such changes in the future. This seems just such > > a case: a minor annoyance whose "fixing" runs a very real risk of > > breaking a lot of important functionalities. > > I'd ask you to consider things very carefully indeed before adopting > such a policy. I did. > I don't think we should stop making these small improvements. This is not about small improvements per se. This is about minor improvements that are implemented by non-trivial changes in basic functionality. I think we've had enough incidents of this kind to be able to draw conclusions for future development.