From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: lokedhs@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The current state of the comment-cache branch
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 14:00:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <838tr5zge4.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161224113620.GF2212@acm.fritz.box> (message from Alan Mackenzie on Sat, 24 Dec 2016 11:36:20 +0000)
> Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2016 11:36:20 +0000
> Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
>
> > Could you or someone else explain why an open paren in column 0 can affect
> > the parsing of syntax in cc-mode at all? After all, such parens have no
> > special syntactic nor semantic meaning in C nor C++.
>
> It is a convention established in Emacs around ?40 years ago, that such
> an open paren signalled the start of a defun. This sped Emacs up
> enormously, since the alternative was searching back to the beginning of
> the buffer to check whether the paren was at the top level.
>
> Currently, the only piece of low-level code which uses this convention is
> back_comment in .../src/syntax.c. This scans backward over a comment to
> its beginning. Scanning backwards is difficult, because you can't really
> tell whether a string quote is contained within a comment, or a comment
> marker might be contained within a string, .... back_comment is
> heuristic, and sort of works OK. But it uses the open defun convention
> to speed itself up.
I think one missing piece of the puzzle, which is what confused Elias,
is that open-paren-in-column-0-is-defun-start is not only about '(',
it's about any character that has the "open parenthesis" syntax class
under the current syntax tables. And in C mode, that includes '{' and
'[', with the former being the important one. I think.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-12-24 12:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-12-23 21:50 The current state of the comment-cache branch Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-24 1:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-24 9:07 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-24 1:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-24 8:40 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-24 20:56 ` Stephen Leake
2016-12-25 15:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-25 20:41 ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-24 8:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-24 8:30 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-24 8:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-24 9:42 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-24 11:11 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-12-24 11:36 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-24 12:00 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2016-12-24 21:48 ` Andreas Röhler
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2016-12-24 12:21 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-12-27 17:55 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-28 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-28 16:42 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-28 16:45 ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-12-28 17:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-28 23:58 ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-12-29 3:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-29 16:56 ` Nikolaus Rath
2016-12-29 17:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-29 19:44 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-30 10:29 ` Andreas Röhler
2017-01-03 17:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-20 18:58 ` Andreas Röhler
2017-01-20 21:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-21 9:06 ` Andreas Röhler
2017-01-22 4:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-28 17:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-29 1:38 ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-29 2:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-24 12:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-24 22:19 ` Paul Eggert
2016-12-25 16:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-25 16:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-28 8:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-28 17:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-28 17:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-12-27 16:40 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-28 15:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-12-28 16:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-24 18:54 ` Richard Stallman
2016-12-27 16:11 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-28 1:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2016-12-28 7:54 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-29 1:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
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