From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31683: emacs-lisp-intro.texi - opportunity to link eintr to elisp Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2018 17:13:18 +0300 Message-ID: <838t7xe0ox.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83bmcte7yr.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1527948735 6462 195.159.176.226 (2 Jun 2018 14:12:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 14:12:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 31683@debbugs.gnu.org To: Van L Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 02 16:12:11 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fP7GM-0001Xa-Bx for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 16:12:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59976 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fP7IR-0000jt-G1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 10:14:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42601) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fP7ID-0000ib-AO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 10:14:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fP7IA-0005JI-2D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 10:14:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:51554) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fP7I9-0005Io-UK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 10:14:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fP7I9-0006PD-On for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 10:14:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2018 14:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31683 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 31683-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31683.152794880624562 (code B ref 31683); Sat, 02 Jun 2018 14:14:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 31683) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jun 2018 14:13:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59450 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fP7HZ-0006O6-Sw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 10:13:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51528) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fP7HY-0006Nr-AL for 31683@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 10:13:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fP7HP-0003Yx-UV for 31683@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 10:13:19 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:46594) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fP7HP-0003Yi-Q7; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 10:13:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=2281 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1fP7HP-0005Mx-94; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 10:13:15 -0400 In-reply-to: (message from Van L on Sat, 2 Jun 2018 23:30:35 +1000) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:146866 Archived-At: > From: Van L > Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 23:30:35 +1000 > Cc: 31683-done@debbugs.gnu.org > > >> : 8cda6f8f44b (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 2150) learn how to read it.@footnote{@code{(quote hello)} is an expansion of > > > > I don't think I agree: the relation to expressions is too far-fetched > > here. > > #+BEGIN_EXAMPLE > 8cda6f8f44b (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 1151) The printed representation of both atoms and lists are called > 8cda6f8f44b (Glenn Morris 2007-09-06 1152) @dfn{symbolic expressions} or, more concisely, @dfn{s-expressions}. Which is actually related to the second location you mentioned, and seems to explain enough of what an s-expression is to be self-contained. In general, this manual is not an introduction chapter for the ELisp manual, and never wanted to be. It only includes cross-references to the ELisp manual where it just mentions some subtlety, but doesn't describe it. These two places don't seem like they fit.